What's your greatest fear?

Postby **Mave** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:38 am

I generally fear heights and drowning.

But I think one of my greatest fears would be, not seeing my loved ones (family/friends) in Heaven and realizing that I could have done more to save them. Pray for your unbeliever loved ones, everyone! That usually calms this particular fear of mine.

Postby **Ssjjvash** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:16 am

greatest fear? ...failing everything.

Postby **Erin** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:05 am

Well I had been REALY miserable for the past year or so and I got realy hurt by the person who I cared the most about and I'm finally getting my life back together agian and right now I think my biggest fear is watching it fall apart yet agian. My other biggest fear is going to heaven and not seeing the friends that didn't know Jesus that I left behind several years ago and knowing that I could have helped them and led them to Jesus. Oh and I'm also terrified of spiders!!!!!!*hides under bed*...*relizes theres spiders uder the bed and runs out screaming*

Postby **gungrave** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:20 am

humm Thats got to be rejection for me! don't ask

Website · Postby **bakura_fan** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:57 am

my biggest fears....are..rejection....and...well....maybe the unknown? I think I just don't want people to ignore me and act like I'm not there when I'm tlaking to them....so..ya..rejection is probably a major issue....v_v

Postby **Mi-Ru-Me** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:35 pm

I, I, I, <_< >_> <_< I'm not afraid of any thing.(looks around at everyone to see if they beleive him or not)

Ok you got me seriously I am afraid of being completly alone, I really don't have a like of tornadoes, I am afraid that my little brothers and sisters may be curupted by the world. (because of all my friends little bro ans sis become jerks)

And like every other christian out there the fear that friends and family die without knowing christ, my Grandpa in Turkey died from a heart attack just last month he was 50 and was moslem. I havnt seen him for 9 years. and the sad part was he could of probably been reached, they arn't that strict
I tell you I cried not as much for the reason that he died that I truly will never see him again and that he will suffer for eternity.

Postby **Mi-Ru-Me** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:45 pm

Its not that you should worry about weather God is real because beliving in God takes faith You believe he is real because their is no other way. Way to many crazy things have happened that He has to excist and to put it as a famous Athist said I don't know his name
"Christians win both ways if God exsits we go to heaven if he does not then nothing happens so as a christian dont worry about it

written for Ghostonthenet

Postby **JediSonic** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:14 pm

I was just about to mention that; there's no logical reason to fear a total annihiliation of being, since once it happens we woudn't be around to care! Sometimes I fear in a similar fashion that my athiest friend I sometimes debate with is right, and christianity has no truth to it, but for the most part I am firm in my faith and I pray about it when I'm not so I'm pretty much good

I have a big fear of spiders.. I'm very cautious around anything with 8 legs and more than 8mm long :sweat:

Mi-Ru-Me, you needn't give up your grandfather; I beleive (and this is official Catholic Church doctrine) that god does not necessarily send non-beleivers to hell, particularly if they never got the proper chance to accept him. We can't judge people ourselves so we have to trust in god's infinite mercy in cases like this.

Similarly, Shao-feng-li, we do not know what is in the hearts of those who have had an abortion, nor do I feel that it's our place to make statements like "she deserves to die".

Postby **Tenshi no Ai** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:25 pm

In no specific order....

-falling (wow other people who fear falling rather than heights!)

-BIG spiders that run FAST!

-dying a horrible death. Tortured, murdered, sufficating, drowing, falling, etc *shudders* It would just be so... a waste to die like that in a sense. Sure if you beleived you would make it into heaven, but if you say died trying to resue someone, then it would be different and be like fullfilling

-just like the Toby Mac song about how he had a dream of being in heaven and his friend wasn't there, it's a scary thought....

-possession in people, dolls, whatever! Reasons why I'll never watch any Exorsist or killer doll movies like Child's Play

-divorce. All that time spent with a person down the drain due to idle arguments :/ 50% rate across the whole continent...

-and finally... rape. I'm a girl so naturally it's something to fear. Total violation and all that goes with it... :/

Postby **dareiq s'an** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:30 pm

hypodermic needles...whenever I got to the doctors I get all whimpy and embarass myself, but aside from that im not really afraid of anything!

Postby **GhostontheNet** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:16 pm

Mi-Ru-Me wrote:Its not that you should worry about weather God is real because beliving in God takes faith[.] You believe he is real because their is no other way. Way to[o] many crazy things have happened that He has to excist and to put it as a famous Ath[e]ist said[, although] I don't know his name[] "Christians win both ways if God exsits we go to heaven if he does not then nothing happens["] so as a christian dont worry about it

written for Ghostonthenet

True. As to the argument from an atheist, it actually originates from the Christian Blaise Pascal, and the concept is dubbed "Pascal's Wager". My own take on the matter could be summed up by my comrade Kyle at The Skeptical Christian, whom after rebuting counterarguments to the wager notes what he (and I) consider to be its flaw and also what its ultimate usefulness is;

Kyle wrote:There is one argument against the wager for which I believe there can be no successful rebuttal-

Belief cannot be gained by force.

In other words, it is impossible to compel someone to actually believe something using threats or physical violence (or by use of bribes). Inasmuch as the Wager attempts to use the threat of Hell (or the enticement of Heaven) to compel belief, it is a failure both morally and intellectually as an argument.

The "moral" failure comes down to this- it is immoral to threaten somebody in order to cause them to believe something. For example, it is immoral to hold a gun to someone's head and say, "Love me or I will kill you." This is simply an evil thing to do, for you have no right to threaten somebody just because they don't believe something you wish they would. Beliefs are a matter of free will, and it is morally repugnant to attempt to take that basic freedom from somebody.

The intellectual failure of the argument is that it simply won't work. Even if someone pointed a gun to your head and you said, "I love you" out of fear, you do not actually gain that belief. You may even wish you had that belief. However, deep down, nothing has really changed about you. Your feelings remain the same.

Imagine if somebody told you that they would torture you unless you sincerely thought the Earth was flat. There is simply no way for an educated individual to sincerely believe such a thing. You can claim that you believe it, you can wish that you believed it, but you cannot honestly come to such a belief by persuasion of threats and violence.

So it is with the Wager. Even if the Wager caused somebody to claim that they believed, or to wish that they believed, they would still not sincerely hold to the truth of Christianity. Therefore, Pascal's Wager is a moral and intellectual failure, as it is generally proposed.

The Use of the Wager

Pascal's Wager does not, in my mind, provide a good reason for believing in Christianity. This does not mean that the Wager is worthless. I think it serves another purpose. Instead of necessitating belief, the Wager should necessitate a careful examination of the evidence.

Pascal's Wager is correct in asserting that there are potential bad consequences of rejecting Christianity if it is indeed true. The same holds true for any religion that is similar to Christianity in its reward/punishment aspect. Therefore, it makes sense (following the Wager) to examine the evidence carefully and closely. The same is true of the moral form of the argument- Christianity, if true, involves a tremendous sacrifice of Jesus Christ, which cannot be ignored in good conscience. Religion should not be brushed off in a few minutes. It must be investigated thoroughly.

Many individuals do not pay religion the attention it deserves. Quite a few atheists reject religion without any significant investigation at all. Many theists say they believe in God but, nevertheless, feel that there is no need to investigate religions or seek out the true nature of God.

Pascal's Wager should bring an end to such foolish notions. Unfortunately, the formulation of the argument as such may have a miniscule audience- as the very people it should influence are the least likely to examine it in the first place! However, I suggest that this argument be advanced towards those who claim that there is "no need" to examine religion closely.

As to JediSonic's argument, I have heard it and more complex variations of it, I fail to see how losing the effects of all one has ever done either immediately or sooner or later is not to be feared. To be somewhat dramatic, I don't know which is worse; the life in utter vain no matter what, or the loss of existence immediately afterwards. My own situation is similar to yours, however, it still takes the capstone as the greatest fear.

Postby **Golden_Griff** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:19 pm

Although I'm a Christian, I have a fear of dying. I guess it's just that uncertainty of when and what will happen.

Besides that, well, if I told you, you may use it to haunt me

Postby **PumpkinKoRn52** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:42 am

I have no fear of dying. Dying is the biggest part of life. I don't see why anyone is afraid of dying. I belive, when it's your time, it's your time. As for me, as I have previously stated, my biggest fear is to be forgotten after I die. If that ever happens, it is as if I have never lived.

Postby **Erin** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:15 am

I think that the mane reason people are afriad of dieing is cause you never know when it will happen and you still have a lot to tell your loved ones.

Postby **Sam*ron** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:52 am

I am afraid of dying a horrible way, like being beat, or kidnapped, something like that.

Postby **Golden_Griff** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:17 pm

PumpkinKoRn52 wrote:I have no fear of dying. Dying is the biggest part of life. I don't see why anyone is afraid of dying. I belive, when it's your time, it's your time. As for me, as I have previously stated, my biggest fear is to be forgotten after I die. If that ever happens, it is as if I have never lived.

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I guess I'm afraid because, well, I have those thoughts were I'm not exactly sure where I'm going to end up for eternity. It gets really scary.

Postby **Jasdero** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:51 pm

I'm scared of all insects... except for ladybugs and butterflies. ^^

A more serious answer would be when someone in my family dies.. I know that it has to happen eventually, but it's a scary thought, all the same.

Postby **Arbre** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:54 pm

My greatest fear used to be discovering that everything I believed in was a lie.

I'm afraid of basing my life around false concepts, even if the intent is good. I've been wrong before, and I don't want to be again. I believe in God, in Jesus, but I don't want to have incorrect ideas. I guess some errors are going to exist because of my limited understanding and all that, but I don't want to be too wrong, or wrong for too long...

Also, I'm afraid of relying too much on people... Intentional or not, people aren't always truthful, and no one is ever always right.

Not a greatest fear, but still something I'm afraid of: Going blind. I couldn't sightread music, I couldn't see the faces of my family and friends, I couldn't see all the beauty that is in the world. I'd be dependent on other people for a lot of things. I don't want to be a huge burden on others.

Postby **Swordguy** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:00 pm

ok i might be weird but all this talk of fear kept bringing to my mind how much i love God... I have no great fear, i know He loves me, i know His plans for me are full of love....which got me saying "Bring on the storms....My DADDY knows the way home." there is nothing that can harm me

17In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him. 18There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

my greatest fear would have to be that i doubt when God asks me to do something...but even now He is working that out of me. Alot of those fears used to be in my heart but God has worked those out of me thru many a storm and i know that He is going to work this one out of me too.

I LOVE MY DADDY

Postby **Hephzibah** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:30 pm

I guess my biggest fear would be spiders... :red:

I'm not really scared of dying or anything like deep like that, but SPIDERS!! I think it all started when I was around 2-3 years old... A big spider fell onto foot

O, another thing is growing up. Since I'm 18, the realisation has sunk in that I might have to leave home soon, and that scares me

To Write Love on Her Arms · Postby **ZiP** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:47 pm

Dying alone.

Postby **c-girl** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:03 pm

Laying on my death bed wishing i had done something. I want to die with no regrets and feel like i have done everything i needed to do.

Postby **Madeline** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:20 pm

Poison. And that my country will be led to its doom by weaklings and fools with me having done nothing to save it from its inevitable fate...
And that we will continue in a downward spiral of moral decline, and those who claim to be Christians try to serve both the world and money at the same time...I was talking about that with someone at drama.

Postby **MorwenLaicoriel** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:15 pm

This is going to sound dorky, but one of my greatest fears is being unloved. I'm kinda dependant, so the thought of not having someone around who cares is kinda upsetting. On the other side of a coin, I'm worried that someone will someday use my gullibility and dependancy to hurt me.

I'm also terrified that a guy I'm close to will die without coming to Christ.

Postby **Loche Achles** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:13 am

Like 7 years ago when I was like 8, I used to be afraid to death of guy smiley. hahaha its my uncles fault he used to be like: "guy smiley's gonna get you" and stuff. That lasted from like 5-9 or something. (guy smileys that guy from sesame street

)
Loche Achles

Postby **Retten** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:33 am

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

That about sums it up for me lol I don't have a greatest fear I mean I still get freaked out sometime like when I first go down a black diamond ski run or repel of a 100ft cliff but I'm used to that type of scare

I do remember being really scared of demons when I was little though do to a story my mom told me but I got over that by about 12 and now I'm now scared at all by them

Postby **ice122985** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:38 am

current fear: my family breaking apart. seriously. i love em and all, but, well, things are not going too hot...

personal fear: not being loved by a girl for who i am. look, all the people that love me, besides God, such as my family, are in some way compelled to love me. there's a reason. and i'm scared that no one will love me for no reason at all...

internal fear: giving in to my sinful nature. translation? i know what i am, and i know it is really, really bad...

Postby **Heart of Sword** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:17 am

This might sound really, super goofy, but I'm afraid of the thought of living forever.

On...and on...and on...and on...and it never ends...I'll be alive forever... :wow!:

Then again it's better than being dead forever, but it's still scary. @_O

Postby **Tenshi no Ai** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:46 am

Heart of Sword wrote:This might sound really, super goofy, but I'm afraid of the thought of living forever.

On...and on...and on...and on...and it never ends...I'll be alive forever...

Then again it's better than being dead forever, but it's still scary. @_O

I've sometimes thought of what it would be like living forever. When I was little (before I believed) I always thought "being dead forever" would be sitting in your coffin constantly... thinking. Minds ca't just simply die, but how horribly boring it would be!

Then again who knows. I'm sure heaven has enough interesting thigns and surprises to keep us entertained for... well, forever! But then again...forever? That's a pretty long time! Oh wow, now you've got me thinking!

Postby **agasfas** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:34 am

Greatest Frear? I'm not really afraid of much.... Well I can be clumsy at times, so I guess I'm a afraid of dieing in an accident like tripping and hitting my head on a table. Though friday I fell/slid down a big ladder at work because of a misstep and had a computer hit my head on the way down. But I was fine afterwards w/ only a few scratches. Being young i can still take a beating

. I'm actually not "that" clumsy but I have my moments.

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