Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1460942) wrote:Purity is not what you do or not do with your body. Purity is where your heart wills just one thing.
For us, I believe that is willing God. Embodying love.
Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1460942) wrote:Purity is not what you do or not do with your body. Purity is where your heart wills just one thing.
For us, I believe that is willing God. Embodying love.
ShiroiHikari (post: 1460951) wrote:
ShiroiHikari (post: 1460951) wrote:
aliveinHim (post: 1460977) wrote:I have noticed there's a bit more nudity in manga than anime. When I watched the earlier Naruto episodes, his body was mostly covered by clouds in his sexy no jutsu, but in the manga, you can almost see everything.
I've watched some of Ai Yori Aoshi. I was shocked when I first watched it to see Aoi naked in the opening theme. I'm a girl watching it so it's not as much of a shock to me than a guy who would be watching it. Seriously, who lives like that in the real world?
bkilbour (post: 1461011) wrote:hm.... the problem always lies with "sex feels good."
so.... the people who, for the most part disagree with AliveinHim on all this stuff are doing it because they want to get that high. Pure and simple.
Those who say kissing/platonic affection (no, not pederasty, just hugging and whatnot)
is okay are those who enjoy that sort of thing, but draw a line.
Those who agree with AliveinHim are of the same sort as herself.
bkilbour (post: 1461011) wrote:hm.... the problem always lies with "sex feels good."
so.... the people who, for the most part disagree with AliveinHim on all this stuff are doing it because they want to get that high. Pure and simple.
Those who say kissing/platonic affection (no, not pederasty, just hugging and whatnot)
is okay are those who enjoy that sort of thing, but draw a line.
Those who agree with AliveinHim are of the same sort as herself.
The first viewpoint is wrong, because fornication is wrong. the second viewpoint is fine, given the individual has enough self-control to enforce said limits (like keeping yourself to a limit when you're out drinking, be careful that the more you have, the more you'll want). The third? Well, AliveinHim, I gotta hand it to ya that you're probably gonna need a lot of patience, but in the end it'll be either totally worth it or a big mixed bag.
Personally, I'm just not doing anything with anyone, not even going out on a date, until God shows me and gives the green light. Until then, I'm cool spending my time with Him.
bkilbour (post: 1461011) wrote:hm.... the problem always lies with "sex feels good."
so.... the people who, for the most part disagree with AliveinHim on all this stuff are doing it because they want to get that high. Pure and simple.
The first viewpoint is wrong, because fornication is wrong.
Shao Feng-Li (post: 1461008) wrote:Japan wants us to think that girls run around with their clothes falling off. Or the US imports that stuff because they know they have an instant male market XD
I don't now why people bother hating or loving the Duggers... Wow they have 20 kids. Whoopee, good for them and what not.
Hansha (post: 1461032) wrote:I don't think it's the number of kids, its the ideas of the Quiverful sect that are in question.
aliveinHim (post: 1460361) wrote:This is a conversation that I've had with so many people. In the homeschool community, this is a never ending conversation. I've made myself my list.
1.) My first kiss will be on my wedding day.
2.) No sexual intercourse until after I'm married.
3.) I will only court, no recreational dating.
4.) I will not move in with a boyfriend until we're married.
I wear a purity ring to remind myself. I know that God has the special guy planned for me. I have my list of qualities I want in a guy.
1.) He must love God first and foremost.
2.) He must love me.
3.) He must love our family.
4.) He must love the church.
5.) He can be an otaku .
What do you all think?
This is getting too confused for me. Lets simplify.
1. Sex outside of marriage is sinful. Why? Because scriptures says so.
2. The Bible does not lay out a Biblical means of going about a relationship
3. Scripture gives us freedom in these undefined areas under the guidance of our conscience
4. Scripture tells us to respect our brother/sister's conscience and not lead him/her to sin
Solution: Act with dignity and respect as would respect the other person in the relationship. We can look down our noses at all those sinners out there who do otherwise. But will this accomplish or change anything? No, not unless we proclaim the gospel and, even in this, only The Holy Spirit changes the heart. So where can we make a difference? In the lives we as individuals touch. This means, quite simply, if you are ever pursuing, gentlemen, a lady, respect her boundaries. if she wants to court and you don't, well, dude, seriously think of her first and court/don't kiss/don't hug. Respect her and show her the love you ought as a possible spouse-to-be (a relationship is act of servitude first to God then to the other person). Ladies, do likewise. There are women out there who do push men to do things wrong too. So what am I saying? Need I simplify? If you're getting romantically involved, you can make the difference by respecting the other person. Remember, every relationship is to point our eyes to Christ! ^_^
SDG
aliveinHim wrote:I have noticed there's a bit more nudity in manga than anime.
Hansha wrote:I don't think it's the number of kids, its the ideas of the Quiverful sect that are in question.
aliveinHim (post: 1461018) wrote:I'm still young so I don't know when God will put the special guy in my life. Waiting for the guy is really hard. I often think that there won't be a guy who meets my standards.
mechana2015 (post: 1461046) wrote:The idea that they will still refuse to use birth control when the last kid they had nearly killed the mom (and if she gets pregnant again the situation will be worse) is what irks me. Willfully acting in a way that could orphan 20 kids isn't something I see as good.
aliveinHim (post: 1460361) wrote:This is a conversation that I've had with so many people. In the homeschool community, this is a never ending conversation. I've made myself my list.
1.) My first kiss will be on my wedding day.
2.) No sexual intercourse until after I'm married.
3.) I will only court, no recreational dating.
4.) I will not move in with a boyfriend until we're married.
I wear a purity ring to remind myself. I know that God has the special guy planned for me. I have my list of qualities I want in a guy.
1.) He must love God first and foremost.
2.) He must love me.
3.) He must love our family.
4.) He must love the church.
5.) He can be an otaku .
What do you all think?
ShiroiHikari (post: 1461060) wrote:Seriously. That irritates me. "Oh let's keep having all these kids! Birth control isn't allowed!" But putting the mom at risk is okay? What if she dies? What about her life? What about all those little kids she'd be leaving behind? They'd probably just say "OH WELL THAT'S GOD'S WILL." I call BS on that kind of thinking.
PatrickEklektos (post: 1461065) wrote:whoa whoa whoa! don't call BS on that thinking just because... uhm, stupid things are done. if she dies, it was infact God's Will. Just like if a guy is walking on the wrong side of the railing at the Grand Canyon and falls off, it was God's Will that he died that way. It was still his fault and he was a complete idiot, but that doesn't negate that God's will was done. It was his time to go.
PatrickEklektos wrote:whoa whoa whoa! don't call BS on that thinking just because... uhm, stupid things are done. if she dies, it was infact God's Will. Just like if a guy is walking on the wrong side of the railing at the Grand Canyon and falls off, it was God's Will that he died that way. It was still his fault and he was a complete idiot, but that doesn't negate that God's will was done. It was his time to go.
No, instead, I need to respect their conscience on the issue and trust the Lord to work in their hearts and loves according to His good will.
Cognitive Gear (post: 1461068) wrote:Personally I think that it would be more accurate to say that it is God's will that humans face the consequences of their actions. Does this mean that God wants us to do stupid things so that we may suffer and die? No. It just means that He is allowing us to experience free will to it's fullest extent.
Cognitive Gear (post: 1461068) wrote:Personally I think that it would be more accurate to say that it is God's will that humans face the consequences of their actions. Does this mean that God wants us to do stupid things so that we may suffer and die? No. It just means that He is allowing us to experience free will to it's fullest extent.
mechana2015 (post: 1461046) wrote:The idea that they will still refuse to use birth control when the last kid they had nearly killed the mom (and if she gets pregnant again the situation will be worse) is what irks me. Willfully acting in a way that could orphan 20 kids isn't something I see as good.
PatrickEklektos (post: 1461065) wrote:whoa whoa whoa! don't call BS on that thinking just because... uhm, stupid things are done. if she dies, it was infact God's Will. Just like if a guy is walking on the wrong side of the railing at the Grand Canyon and falls off, it was God's Will that he died that way. It was still his fault and he was a complete idiot, but that doesn't negate that God's will was done. It was his time to go.
Shao Feng-Li (post: 1461075) wrote:Yeah, if she passed away there would be no one at all to help the dad take care of them, because all 20 of them are apparently toddlers and can't help each other.
Shao Feng-Li (post: 1461075) wrote:It seems Mrs. Duggar loves having children and they both want this. Yeah, having kids is risky and all, but she is gonna hit menopause before too long anyway and not be able to have children. She's 44- so that kinda takes away any risks in the near future. Just saying, her last risk could've happened with any kid- it wasn't do to how many she's had. According to wikipedia (I'm aware that it's not exactly a medical journal or what have you), the condition she had is most common for first time pregnancies.
Not saying that I believe in everything they do and believe, but I'm just trying to look at it objectively.
Nate (post: 1461069) wrote:Sorry, I'm gonna go flat out and say it's stupid and BS. Because otherwise I can justify doing anything by that logic.
It doesn't matter if my kid goes out and plays in traffic! I won't tell him not to do it or stop him because if he dies, it's just God's will. It doesn't matter if I drive drunk because hey, if I die, it's just God's will! That kind of thinking can lead to doing any stupid ridiculous thing just because it's "God's will." God gave us brains. We're supposed to use our brains. If something is dangerous, He gave us the good sense to NOT do that thing. You'd think that, but then you have people who just use the "God's will" line to justify doing something stupid and dangerous.
To be fair, while I'm fine with birth control, I know Christian denominations who think it's sinful. I disagree, but I don't feel like debating it. They're welcome to their opinions. However, the Duggars' thing goes beyond just "birth control is bad" and that's why I can't stand them and think they're terrible people.
That's just perpetuating oppression and evil. I could say the same thing about oh, let's go with slavery. "I need to respect slaveowners' conscience on the issue and trust the Lord to work in their hearts." NO. I need to help slaves escape their masters and work for equality for all races. Sitting there going "I should respect them abusing and mistreating human beings" is NOT CHRISTIAN.
And yeah, the fact that they're exploiting themselves on TV for money is even more sickening. :/
PatrickEklektos (post: 1461062) wrote:Except meybe listed number three, mostly because of my past experiences. I don't want to court if I can help it. LOL I mean, if that is what the woman I am destined to marry wants, I'm not going to argue too much, but courtship won't be my vehicle of building a relationship anymore.
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