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Japan picks Top 100 Games of all time...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:52 pm
by MasterDias
...or at least Famitsu subscribers do.

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200603/020.asp

I can't say that I'm surprised that RPGs make up so much of the list. But I find some parts of the list odd. FFX as #1? The game was good but not that good. FFV before VIII, IX, and VI. Glaring absences of series like Castlevania and Metroid...

Regardless, the list is interesting to read over although somewhat skewed.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:55 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
#25 should be #1 :lol:

No suprise final fantasy 7 is #2 :eyeroll: that game is overrated (as in, very good but overrated)

But HOW on earth did final fantasy 4 and 5 beat 6? [i]Especially[/5] 5, which isn't as great as the other 2 (4 and 6)

Also sad to see that DDR never made it to the list

Note: On the forums, some guys are talking about how bad famitsu magazine is..... so there goes Famitsu's credibility

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:59 pm
by Tarnish
FFX as #1 is just plain screwed up.
What's even worse is FFX-2 making it on there AT ALL. :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:03 pm
by Slater
uhm... those are only console games.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:33 pm
by MasterDias
Not quite.

If you go down the list aways, you will see a few PC games. But, yeah, console games are generally far more popular than PC games in Japan.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:37 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
I lost all respect for famitsu now

WHERE IS HALF-LIFE AND COUNTERSTRIKE?????????? And Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen!

I believe that this list is very biased

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:44 pm
by Rocketshipper
How is it Famitsu's fault if their readers were the ones who picked the games? And it's just peoples' opinions, no need to get all worked up ^^;;. I'm happy to see Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts, and Xenogears made the list.

*reads the list completly*


...wait a minute! No Lunar!?!?! To arms!!! :evil:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:53 pm
by Kaligraphic
96. Tetris (Game Boy version, 1989)

Tetris ftw.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:58 pm
by Rexman64
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:I lost all respect for famitsu now

WHERE IS HALF-LIFE AND COUNTERSTRIKE??????????

Apparently, FPS's tend to give the Japanese motion sickness.

/random fact

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:02 pm
by Sync
PC/arcade games have always been overshadowed by consoles in Japan, the PC market is hardly like in the US with all the varying genres and cross-platform games that can show up on consoles.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:05 pm
by Nate
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:I lost all respect for famitsu now

Yeah. How horrible that the Japanese don't like PC gaming where you spend 600 dollars upgrading your system every six months so you can continue to play the latest games instead of paying 200 dollars and being able to play every game released for that system for five years or so. That's just not right. They should throw away their money the same as American consumers![/sarcasm]

Eh, other than that, it's made by readers, so I can't complain. I do think Chrono Trigger was a bit low on that list, but eh. Nice to see Dragon Quest VIII (which COMPLETELY rocks) as number 4...but behind DQ III, which is as it should be (DQ III was by far the best).

Surprised to see Final Fantasy VIII so high on the list though. The game was not well-received in Japan from what I understood. But at least FFIV beat out FFVI. Yay!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:23 pm
by Bobtheduck
#25 Final Fantasy VI: Lost to III and V??? The class change system is not a replacement for a story! III had almost no story, and V's story, while ok, didnt' compare to the story in VI... That makes me mad... FFVII I can understand because it was just more popular, but V? I didn't think it was that popular? Apparently they really like the class change system, because that's all that III had going for it... That, and it was the first FF game to not feature the "Swish, hit, die, swish, missed dead body, swish, miss dead body, swish, miss dead body, get hit by the 9 other monsters on the screen" battle system, which was a great improvement.

And I rarely hear IV fans knock VI...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:28 pm
by Nate
Bobtheduck wrote:And I rarely hear IV fans knock VI...

Oh, I wasn't knocking it... XD;; Just that IV is better than VI to me.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:39 pm
by The Last Bard
Japanese like PC games...Hirameki is about to start translating LOTS of them. They're called visual novels.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:43 pm
by Tommy
Sorry MSP, but I like FF4 way better than FF6.
I can agree FF6 is far superior to FF5 though.

FF10 is MUCH more overrated than 7.
Was their Grandia 2? If not, these guys suck. I`ll go check.

EDIT: Grandia 1 and no 2??!!!
The nerve.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:48 pm
by Yojimbo
Japanese gamers have different game tastes then Americans I don't see why some of you are upset it's a readers choice list.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:07 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
Yojimbo wrote:Japanese gamers have different game tastes then Americans I don't see why some of you are upset it's a readers choice list.

Good point, it is Japanese afterall lol. But half-life pretty much revolutionized PC FPSes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:09 pm
by everdred12a
I can't say that I'm not upset by some of their choices, but at the same time I'm not too surprised either. But I still say that X did not deserve to be the #1 game.

The Last Bard wrote:Japanese like PC games...Hirameki is about to start translating LOTS of them. They're called visual novels.


Any idea what games they're translating? I would love to get a translated version of Kanon... otherwise I'll never be able to play it. Given, Kanon was produced by a different company, I can still hope, right?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:24 pm
by MasterDias
The Last Bard wrote:Japanese like PC games...Hirameki is about to start translating LOTS of them. They're called visual novels.

That type of game is still pretty niche, even in Japan.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:31 pm
by Lynx
i'm just happy some megami tensei games made the list!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:23 pm
by Bobtheduck
Yojimbo wrote:Japanese gamers have different game tastes then Americans I don't see why some of you are upset it's a readers choice list.


Because a couple of them don't make sense... I can understand the FF series beating my favorite games, but I can't understand V and III beating VI, particularly III... Like, there is no logic to that whatsoever. VI had a better system than III, it had a more detailed plot, it had actual characters (rather than the blank "onion kids" what were supposed to be something the player could project himself or herself upon) III was one of the WORST games in the series, (I personally hate 1 the most, but you can't deny the FIRST game...) so i don't understand how it earned a higher spot than VI... V is almost understandable, because it at least had a plot, and they must have really liked the class change system... Or they liked the vehicles, as I believe III has the widest variety of Vehicles in the series. It is perfectly understandable that X was on top... It was the first game in the series to have voices. That's quite a big thing. And, I'm guessing the acting in the Japanese version is better than the American version...

Of course, III was also the first game in the series to have a defined mission... You pretty much had to guess in I and II... Or, rather, pay very very close attetion and talk to everyone...

Another thing that gets me is that one game shows up at least twice... Toki Meki Memorial...

Oh, and RE:4 shows up twice (GC and PS2) And SH doesn't show up at all... Well, it's no different in the US... I think it's most popular in Europe, and takes backstage in the US and Japan...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:43 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
I'm going to ignore it. The Thief games are probably the best games out there (and they aren't even mentioned.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:43 pm
by Tommy
Yojimbo wrote:Japanese gamers have different game tastes then Americans I don't see why some of you are upset it's a readers choice list.


Because Grandia games ARE japanese-made.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:02 pm
by Joshua Christopher
Pepsiman.

Pepsiman is the best thing ever made.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:35 pm
by V8Tsunami
GT4 made it.

I am proud.

Lol still here for anybody that was wondering. I've just cut down on my internet forums alot to focus more on work. Not that it's working though :lol: