Homosexuality in Games
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:49 am
Okay here it is finally... Sorry I got lazy 
But it does exist and it is here.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2098406/
Small Note. I cannot stand the author of MSNBC's many many articles. His name is "bla bla Thompson" and I can't stand him
His articles go all over the place, are unorganized, and he doesn't know what he's talking about
Be sure to read this... The Gay guy's blog that **** me off
[quote="gay guy's blog"]
Rainbow Warriors
December 2, 2001
Sometimes it can be disappointing to be gay and a video game fan. There's just not a whole lot of representation out there for us. What have we got? The only outright example I can think of is The Sims, where all the characters are inherently bisexual. It's just a matter of connecting with the right person. (Sidebar: Have you seen the gay-themed commercial for The Sims' latest expansion? It's a hoot.) There's also a lot of gender ambiguity in Japanese games with anime influences (just like the anime itself). I found out recently that the main villain in the Samurai Shodown series, Amakusa, is actually a man. Sure, he has long, flowing red hair and wears a big, elaborate dress and has a girlish laugh, but he's a man.
But I'm speaking of full-on gayness, not just that Japanese fascination with gender-bending. There's not much there -- at least a first glance. But if you look closer, pick up on the subtext, drink a lot, take hallucinogens, and jump to the kind of far-out conclusions that caused some people to argue that Abraham Lincoln had a gay affair, you can find it. I've been spending some time awash with nostalgia towards old (and not-so-old) fighting games, and I've come to the conclusion that there are all sorts of characters who can be read as gay. Join me for my analysis. Bring along a pinch of salt.
Guile and Charlie - Street Fighter series: Guile and Charlie are totally the Bert and Ernie of the fighting-game world. Seriously. Street Fighter II came out when I was just graduating high school. In fact, Sushi and I were living together as roommates when I first started looking at this game. I was immediately drawn to Guile, with his killer biceps, military outfit, and distinctive hair. His background story was a bit of an eyebrow-raiser. He had entered this fight to get at the main villain, M. Bison, whom he blamed for the death of his "best friend" and Army pal Charlie. That seems innocuous. But it became obvious that this was more than simple vengeance. Guile wore Charlie's dogtags next to his own, and one of his victory poses featured him holding up his necklace in some sort of salute.
That's not just friendship, that's love. Oh, sure, Guile allegedly had a wife and child, and they showed them if you beat the game. But references to them in future games utterly disappeared. They were obviously beards, as this was before the whole "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy came about. Guile also had a tendency to primp between matches and really started to look like a gym queen with a uniform fetish.
Then Capcom (the game manufacturer) introduced a prequel to the game, Street Fighter Alpha, and we got to meet Charlie himself. Charlie was similarly built, fought in a fashion similar to Guile, and had different, but equally distinctive, stylish hair. He also leaned towards the between-match primping and wore some stylish eyeglasses.
At some point, Capcom pretty much abandoned continuity (no doubt realizing that players didn't really care all that much about why these guys are fighting) and started putting Charlie in some of the fighting crossover games they developed (X-Men vs. Street Fighter, for example). Now, with Marvel vs. Capcom II, Charlie and Guile are in the same game together, able to fight side by side.
Oh sure, nothing has ever been said outright, but I'm sure tossing sonic boom attacks and flying somersault kicks are not normal military training practices, even in Special Forces. These two have spent a lot of time together teaching each other to fight, and bonding and… stuff. Their devotion to each other is adorable -- and very, very gay. And if there's any doubt, just look at their hair. Their hair speaks volumes. That's gay hair. After all this fighting is over, the two of them are going to retire out here to Oceanside and open up a modest B&B so that all the gay marines and sailors have a place to rendezvous.
Victor was the game's Frankenstein-type monster, though with those his giant pecs and washboard abs, he seemed to have been influenced by Rocky Horror as well. There wasn't anything about Victor's story that marked him as gay, but well, you have to see him in action. You see, Victor fights with his… well… he fights with his ***. If you hit the "kick" buttons when he's standing next to his opponent, he spins around and attempts to hit him or her with his ample buttocks. And one of his throws features him grabbing his opponents between his buttcheeks, spinning them around, and throwing them. In gay wrestling porn, that counts as foreplay.
Demitri - Darkstalkers series: Demitri is a classic case of denial and overcompensation. He's a vampire, and at first glance, he's totally into the women. One of his victory poses features several women coming to offer themselves to him. One of his special moves features him turning his opponent into a girl (even if the opponent is already a girl -- strange) and draining them of some sort of fluid.
But look closer. First of all, he's awfully buff for a vampire. Really, really muscular. He wears a period-piece Victorian suit -- apparently made from spandex, showing off his body by Bally. I think he ordered it from International Male. When he spins around, you can see that he's got an *** you can crack walnuts with. And he's big on the spinning -- several of his special moves involve him twirling around to damage his opponents. I bet he's a really good dancer.
The final nail in the coffin -- so to speak -- for Demitri is his storyline. He wants to rule the demon dimensions, or whatever the hell is the explanation for all these bizarre characters. But he also wants to possess Morrigan, a succubus and one of the other fighters. But he never does]
This is just insane... I think the Gay community is trying to force us to accept them. On the other hand I know what it's like to want to be accepted. They just want to have their own thing going on. BUT... Well, I don't want to put up with it.
I'll comment on the Gay Guy's BLog later *eye twitches*
But it does exist and it is here.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2098406/
Small Note. I cannot stand the author of MSNBC's many many articles. His name is "bla bla Thompson" and I can't stand him
His articles go all over the place, are unorganized, and he doesn't know what he's talking about
Be sure to read this... The Gay guy's blog that **** me off
[quote="gay guy's blog"]
Rainbow Warriors
December 2, 2001
Sometimes it can be disappointing to be gay and a video game fan. There's just not a whole lot of representation out there for us. What have we got? The only outright example I can think of is The Sims, where all the characters are inherently bisexual. It's just a matter of connecting with the right person. (Sidebar: Have you seen the gay-themed commercial for The Sims' latest expansion? It's a hoot.) There's also a lot of gender ambiguity in Japanese games with anime influences (just like the anime itself). I found out recently that the main villain in the Samurai Shodown series, Amakusa, is actually a man. Sure, he has long, flowing red hair and wears a big, elaborate dress and has a girlish laugh, but he's a man.
But I'm speaking of full-on gayness, not just that Japanese fascination with gender-bending. There's not much there -- at least a first glance. But if you look closer, pick up on the subtext, drink a lot, take hallucinogens, and jump to the kind of far-out conclusions that caused some people to argue that Abraham Lincoln had a gay affair, you can find it. I've been spending some time awash with nostalgia towards old (and not-so-old) fighting games, and I've come to the conclusion that there are all sorts of characters who can be read as gay. Join me for my analysis. Bring along a pinch of salt.
Guile and Charlie - Street Fighter series: Guile and Charlie are totally the Bert and Ernie of the fighting-game world. Seriously. Street Fighter II came out when I was just graduating high school. In fact, Sushi and I were living together as roommates when I first started looking at this game. I was immediately drawn to Guile, with his killer biceps, military outfit, and distinctive hair. His background story was a bit of an eyebrow-raiser. He had entered this fight to get at the main villain, M. Bison, whom he blamed for the death of his "best friend" and Army pal Charlie. That seems innocuous. But it became obvious that this was more than simple vengeance. Guile wore Charlie's dogtags next to his own, and one of his victory poses featured him holding up his necklace in some sort of salute.
That's not just friendship, that's love. Oh, sure, Guile allegedly had a wife and child, and they showed them if you beat the game. But references to them in future games utterly disappeared. They were obviously beards, as this was before the whole "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy came about. Guile also had a tendency to primp between matches and really started to look like a gym queen with a uniform fetish.
Then Capcom (the game manufacturer) introduced a prequel to the game, Street Fighter Alpha, and we got to meet Charlie himself. Charlie was similarly built, fought in a fashion similar to Guile, and had different, but equally distinctive, stylish hair. He also leaned towards the between-match primping and wore some stylish eyeglasses.
At some point, Capcom pretty much abandoned continuity (no doubt realizing that players didn't really care all that much about why these guys are fighting) and started putting Charlie in some of the fighting crossover games they developed (X-Men vs. Street Fighter, for example). Now, with Marvel vs. Capcom II, Charlie and Guile are in the same game together, able to fight side by side.
Oh sure, nothing has ever been said outright, but I'm sure tossing sonic boom attacks and flying somersault kicks are not normal military training practices, even in Special Forces. These two have spent a lot of time together teaching each other to fight, and bonding and… stuff. Their devotion to each other is adorable -- and very, very gay. And if there's any doubt, just look at their hair. Their hair speaks volumes. That's gay hair. After all this fighting is over, the two of them are going to retire out here to Oceanside and open up a modest B&B so that all the gay marines and sailors have a place to rendezvous.
Victor was the game's Frankenstein-type monster, though with those his giant pecs and washboard abs, he seemed to have been influenced by Rocky Horror as well. There wasn't anything about Victor's story that marked him as gay, but well, you have to see him in action. You see, Victor fights with his… well… he fights with his ***. If you hit the "kick" buttons when he's standing next to his opponent, he spins around and attempts to hit him or her with his ample buttocks. And one of his throws features him grabbing his opponents between his buttcheeks, spinning them around, and throwing them. In gay wrestling porn, that counts as foreplay.
Demitri - Darkstalkers series: Demitri is a classic case of denial and overcompensation. He's a vampire, and at first glance, he's totally into the women. One of his victory poses features several women coming to offer themselves to him. One of his special moves features him turning his opponent into a girl (even if the opponent is already a girl -- strange) and draining them of some sort of fluid.
But look closer. First of all, he's awfully buff for a vampire. Really, really muscular. He wears a period-piece Victorian suit -- apparently made from spandex, showing off his body by Bally. I think he ordered it from International Male. When he spins around, you can see that he's got an *** you can crack walnuts with. And he's big on the spinning -- several of his special moves involve him twirling around to damage his opponents. I bet he's a really good dancer.
The final nail in the coffin -- so to speak -- for Demitri is his storyline. He wants to rule the demon dimensions, or whatever the hell is the explanation for all these bizarre characters. But he also wants to possess Morrigan, a succubus and one of the other fighters. But he never does]
This is just insane... I think the Gay community is trying to force us to accept them. On the other hand I know what it's like to want to be accepted. They just want to have their own thing going on. BUT... Well, I don't want to put up with it.
I'll comment on the Gay Guy's BLog later *eye twitches*
Yes, when you think of the name Violet you might think of a woman. But (to me) that doesn't mean a thing. Lot's of people think Ashley and Whitney are feminine names but it just so happens that those are the same names of two of the founding fathers of this country.
. However, I still do not think that there are enough possible cases to show a move towards significantly more homosexual charactesr in games.
We know. He acutally had one point, but people kept nit picking it. He's just defending his points in subsequent posts, and providing the examples people requested.
I talked to my cousin today and he's one of those guys that can remember what shirt you wore a month ago. He reminded me that it's not Rose that gives you the info but Snake and then Otacon chimes in. Just incase anyone wanted to check it out for themselves or something.