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Postby Nate » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:20 pm

That's an interesting theory, BlueRose, and I kinda like it but
[SPOILER=Nobodies]A Nobody's name is an anagram of the original person, with an X. That's why Xenahort (who called himself Ansem) had a nobody named Xemnas. Same thing with Roxas (Sora with an x). Ignoring the mistranslations in the English version, Xigbar was Braig, Xaldin was Dilan, Vexen was Even, Lexaeus was Elaeus, and Zexion was Ienzo. The true names of the other members of Organization XIII haven't been revealed, but the same holds true for them...so even though it's a nice theory, Axel isn't Riku's name with an x. Riku, if he had a Nobody, it would be Kirux, or Xikur, or something like that. ^^[/spoiler]
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:29 pm

Ohhhhh! I didn't even notice that!! lol! If I had known that I wouldn't've thought it! But yeah...bummer. Thanks for that peice of info. I didn't realize Kae!
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Postby Nate » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:34 pm

Nah, it's fine, I really dig deep into the stories of games I like, so most people don't realize that... XD

[SPOILER=Axel]Though considering how few letters his name has, what was Axel's name? I can only think of Lea (a girl's name, wouldn't that be funny) or Ale (a type of alcoholic beverage XD). Or maybe Lae? That's a weird name, but no weirder than Elaeus I guess.[/SPOILER]
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:39 pm

[spoiler=Kaemmerites thoughts] XD That would be funny. Maybe Axel was faking his name. lol. And I thought I dug deep into the KH stories. <.< It would most likley be Lae, if it were. What I wonder most is why only certian people turned into an Orginization member. They must've been something special, like Namine, Roxas, and the others. I think it's bummer that you don't hear everyone's story.[/spoiler]
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Postby Nate » Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:08 pm

[SPOILER=Names]Well, it doesn't help that the English version mistranslated the names of the Organization...in fact, the English version made it look like there was no connection at all between the name of the person and the Nobody. Xigbar/Braig was mistranslated as Bleig, Xaldin/Dilan was mistranslated as Dilin, and Lexaeus/Elaeus was mistranslated as Eleus. Especially concerning Xigbar being "Bleig" in the English version, it would be very difficult for most people to draw the connection between the two names.[/SPOILER]
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:14 pm

[spoiler]Ahhh. *shakes head* Those English translaters, they mess it all up. They act as though we're stupid! And think it's easier for us to understand it this way. *shakes head again*[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Secret ending] So, has anyone seen the secret ending? The Japanese one? Or even the English one! I haven't seen the English one, but I downloaded the Japanese one.
These words apear:
Memory of Xehanort
Master of the Keyblade
The lost two
Chasers
Keyblade war

What does it mean?! I must say, I am more excited about this Secret ending then Another Side, Another story. I figure, the Nobodies are not fully gone, since they mention Xehanort. Who are the Chasers? Who are the lost two? I can't tell if the characters on the left and right sides are girls, I know the one of the left with the helmet horn lookin things facing down is a girl. Who is the shadow in the fog? So many questions!
*watches it over again* Oh I didn't notice that! All 3 of them are dual weilded too. And what is with all of the Keyblades?

Oh yeah, another question. Does the Keyblade multiply itself, or are there more then one? Because, Riku has a Keyblade, Mickey has one, and so does Sora. How is that? [/spoiler]
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Postby desperado » Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:51 pm

[spoiler] kairi has one now as well [/spoiler]
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:59 pm

[spoiler=Nobodies (Read this Kae!)] I showed my sister what you said about their names, and she goes "Oh yeah! But Axel doesn't have a..." and I was like "I know!" then she goes "But what about Kairi and Namine?"
What about Kairi and Namine?? o.O [/spoiler]
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Postby Nate » Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:01 pm

[SPOILER=Secret Ending]Posted about this a few pages back... XD

The three characters that appear are three original characters, not anyone from the series. Nomura stated so himself. As far as all the Keyblades, I'm assuming that they are referential of the Keyblade War.

I'm not sure if there is more than one Keyblade. As far as I can tell according to Wikipedia, there is only one TRUE Keyblade, and the rest are artificial copies, except for Mickey's, which is the Realm of Darkness's Keyblade...I guess like there is light and dark in each heart, there is a light and a dark Keyblade. All others are copies apparently.

All we have at this point are speculations...perhaps somebody found a way to mass-produce false keyblades? (Probably Xenahort, it would allow him to "unlock" the heart of all the worlds Sora has locked). Or perhaps there were other wielders before Sora, and they have turned to the side of darkness. Either way, guess we're just gonna have to wait.

P.S. Like I said in my previous post, the costume designs are ridiculous...looks like a Power Rangers ripoff.[/SPOILER]
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Postby Tarnish » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:08 pm

I won!! :D
Good ending! Better than I was expecting...but I don't really WANT it to be over...^^;; But that's just how I am, I suppose.
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:07 pm

*claps* Yay for Orenji! Now go play it on Proud mode! :D lol!

I'm wondering if Kae doesn't know that I asked him a question? <.< >.> If you read this Kae, I asked you a question in my last post.
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Postby Nate » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:18 pm

No, I saw it. XD;; The site I normally get my info from is down, but this is what I can remember...

[SPOILER]I think that Namine isn't related to Kairi's name because she's a unique type of Nobody, since Kairi's heart was so pure and full of light...and remember, her heart was inside Sora in the first game. So I think it was how pure her heart was, combined with the special circumstances of Sora unlocking his own heart with the Keyblade, that made Namine a special Nobody...hence why she has her own identity instead of being like the other Nobodies.[/SPOILER]
On another note, does anyone find the names of the enemies ironic? You have the Heartless, created when a heart is engulfed in darkness and leaves its husk, having no body. A Nobody is the shell left behind when the heart leaves, thus it is heartless. It seems like the names should be switched to me. The Heartless have no body, and the Nobodies have no heart.
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:31 pm

[spoiler] Makes sense. So, Axel is Riku's Nobody then. ^_^ Because he was "engulfed in darkness", and sort of died. lol, jk. I don't get these special exceptions. -_- If Riku was in Kingdom Hearts, didn't he "die" at some point? Therefore he should have a Nobody!
Hey! When that site is up, could I have the link to it?
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I agree! I totally think it's confusing! It really makes no sense.
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Postby Nate » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:36 pm

[SPOILER]Ah, but the reason Namine is unique is because Kairi's heart was void of darkness. Riku's heart was engulfed in darkness, so if he had a Nobody, it would've been a regular run of the mill Nobody, i.e. Riku's name plus x. :P Even the hero Sora had a regular Nobody, since his heart wasn't pure like Kairi's. That's my take on it. If you look up Namine in wikipedia, it'll explain it.

And remember, Riku's heart never left his body, unlike Sora and Kairi. Riku never had a Heartless, because Xenahort just latched onto Riku's heart. When Xenahort left Riku, Riku's heart was still intact in his body. Without a Heartless, you can't have a Nobody. ;)[/SPOILER]
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:45 pm

[spoiler] SEE! I knew that all along. It was just all scrambled in my head....scrambled..o.O lol. I needed to see the plot all together. Rather then chopped up. I get it I get it. lol, thanks Kae. [/spoiler]

Ok...I had something I wanted to say...but I forgot. lol.
I took this screen shot of Roxas. lol, I find it funny. It looks like he's looking at the camera.
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Postby Nate » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:03 pm

Oh, BlueRose, it's back up, so here's the description:

[SPOILER=Namine]Naminé and Roxas appear to be of a similar nature, not quite supposed to exist, yet still existing because of someone else. While Roxas is the Nobody of Sora, she is actually a "special Nobody" born from Kairi's heart when it left Sora's body. However as Kairi had no darkness in her heart, Sora's body and soul were used in Naminé's creation. As a result of this, she had none of Kairi's memories. Because of this, DiZ states that Naminé's birth was special and her powers could only effect the memories of Sora and those whose hearts are connected to his, which was why she was used by the Organization.[/SPOILER]
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:45 pm

Ohhhhhh ok. I see I see.

Um...is it alright if I could see that site? I mean, you don't have to give it to me or anything, just wondering... :sweat:
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Postby Nate » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:15 pm

Oh, it's just wikipedia, BlueRose. XD
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:36 pm

Ohhhhh! HAHA! XD Dar!
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Postby Chosen Raven » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:27 pm

Just beat it last night. I believe that was the most spectacular boss battle I've ever fought. That was a great ending, too. Now I gotta play through on proud mode.
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Postby Tarnish » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:59 pm

Um...did I miss something?
[SPOILER]What happened to Maleficent and Pete? Did they die in the sea of Heartless? Am I just stupid and didn't pay enough attention? Wha happen? O__o[/SPOILER]
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Postby Chosen Raven » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:00 pm

Um...did I miss something?


I was wondering about that too. I haven't gotten the secret ending yet. Maybe they show up there?
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:32 pm

Orenji wrote:Um...did I miss something?
[SPOILER]What happened to Maleficent and Pete? Did they die in the sea of Heartless? Am I just stupid and didn't pay enough attention? Wha happen? O__o[/SPOILER]


I would like to know too......[mysterious voice]

[spoiler] I do not beleive they show you what happens. I'm sure most people guess that they both died, cuzz that was quite a lot of heartless. But, that leaves it open to maybe seeing them in the next, neh? ^_~ [/spoiler]
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Postby Tarnish » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:08 am

Okaay...v__v Stupid writers. Now I have to wait another 5 years before I know, and by then I won't care. But...
[SPOILER]In the first game, what about when they talked about Kairi coming to Destiny Islands right after a meteor shower?
Or in "Deep Jungle" when Sora was viewing the slideshow and said that the castle looked familiar? >__>[/SPOILER]
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Postby Kkun » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:59 am

Has anyone else vanquished Sephiroth yet?

I pwnihilated him. It was fun. I wish I'd saved outside his fight so I could have done it again. Ah well, there's always Proud mode. >D
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Postby Tommy » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:19 pm

Was Sephiroth easier or harder?

The difficulty of Sephiroth in the first one was so exagerated it wasn`t even funny.
I don`t consider three swipes of my keyblade depleting a whole bar and having hi mjust disappear and reappear behind me that hard (yes, this was on expert mode, level 42 with Oathkeeper).

The only thing that would make him even close to hard is not knowing how to cancel Sin Harvest and being too stupid to dodge his attack.

And once last thing: Is the match between Cloud and Sephiroth the same one that was shown in KH: Final Mix?
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:32 pm

Orenji wrote:[SPOILER]In the first game, what about when they talked about Kairi coming to Destiny Islands right after a meteor shower?
Or in "Deep Jungle" when Sora was viewing the slideshow and said that the castle looked familiar? >__>[/SPOILER]


[spoiler=Orenji's questions] As to your questions Orenji.
I beleive the meteor shower was caused because of Hollow Bastion being destroyed (Or Radiant Gardens I should say ^_-). Because that was around 12 (Or was it 7?! o.O) years ago. In Kingdom Hearts 1, in the empty room in Traverse Town, Leon tells the story of their world being destroyed, introduces Ansem the Wise, and says how it all happened 12 (Or 7) years ago. Well, Kairi also lived on Radiant Gardens, and when that world was destroyed by the Hearltess when Xehanort opened the door in Ansem the Wise's basement, Kairi ended up washing up to shore onto Destiny Islands.
Make sense? ^_^
And about Deep Jungle. The reason why he says that, is because Kairi's heart is inside him, and the castle looks a lot like the castle from Radiant Gardens before it was destroyed. That was one of the hints that you knew Kairi's heart was within him. Also when he first got to Hollow Bastion, he says it looks familiar again (Because Kairi is feeling that).
So technically, those things were actually revealed in the first one. ^_^[/spoiler]

If I'm wrong in any of this, lol, someone correct me. XD;
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Postby Tarnish » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:29 pm

Okay, I get it. ^^ Thanks.
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Postby Tommy » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:23 pm

I just got semi-stuck on a boss.

I may sound like a complete n00b because I haven`t finished it yet but I am taking this game really slowly (maybe a half hour every other day at the most) and I have no intention of wrapping it up quickly.

That dude with the guitar. He randomly makes all these clones and they seperate all over the ring and you have 9 seconds to kill them all. It takes 6 seconds to get to one and yes, I know about Wild Dance.

Another question is:

I saw screenshots of the 1000 heartless battle and I spotted two Behemoths heading towards Sora, dark shaded in color.

Was that a hoax? I`ll try to find a link quickly.

EDIT: Found it! http://www.khinsider.com/gallery/img460.htm
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Postby desperado » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:30 pm

hoax never saw a behomoth unless its on proud mode
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