Is using the RPG 2003 for the computer wrong?

[Destroyer2000]

I think it's illegally translated...

[Destroyer2000]

It bothers me, because it's so much fun to make an RPG, and the one for the PS2 is so limited if you aren't internet connected with it.

[Azier the Swordsman]

As long as it's not officially liscensed and released in America, it's probably alright.

[Bobtheduck]

No, it's not allright. Unlike the anime which is an ethical grey area, Agetec filed a request to all of those who circulated the illegal translation to discontinue and refuse to release it legitamately in the US because of the illegal translations. So, sorry it's not allright...

I still have not deleted my RPG maker 2000... It's so hard to do it... I worked so hard... But, I must delete it, and I will... They specifically asked that it no longer be used, so we should honor their wishes since we did not pay for it.

When I finish Full Sail, I will see about developing a freeware RPG engine like RPG Maker 2003. One with original features that negate the use for Agetec's program and using the illegal translation. It will give people a legal and ethical alternative to something they can't have legally...

[uc pseudonym]

That'd be wonderful if you did that.

Meanwhile, Bobtheduck is completely right, it is an illegitimate program. Not even in a grey area. Is the program even unreleased in the US? I believe it is, but Bobtheduck identified the special circumstances...

[cbwing0]

I agree that it is wrong.

I will see about developing a freeware RPG engine like RPG Maker 2003. One with original features that will be original and negate the use for Agetec's program and using the illegal translation.

That would be cool. I might even use it.

[Azier the Swordsman]

No, it's not allright. Unlike the anime which is an ethical grey area, Agetec filed a request to all of those who circulated the illegal translation to discontinue and refuse to release it legitamately in the US because of the illegal translations. So, sorry it's not allright...

Hmm... I had not heard about this. That's a shame. The LEAST they could do is release it in the US.

[Destroyer2000]

Isn't that the truth...the one for PS2 is so limited...

[Destroyer2000]

Wait....would it be wrong if you used it just for fun and didn't distribute what you made on some website?

[uc pseudonym]

Yes, though that's a tempting line of thought I've had to deal with as well. Technically it amounts to the same as: "would it be wrong if you stole it from the store but just used it just for fun and didn't distribute what you made on some website?"

[madphilb]

Haven't there been a few RPG creation projects around.... I know I had one that was indevelopment a while ago, but at the time lacked a working battle system (though someone made one up using the games' scripting language).

Oh well.

[Bobtheduck]

There are at least 3 semi-alternatives to RPG Maker 2003 for the PC, but none of them are that combination of ease of use and versatility... IE, some have the versatility of RPG maker 2003 or even better, but not the ease of use, and some have near the ease of use but next to no versatility. I may work to remedy that, but if someone does before I do, more power to them, as long as it's Japanese style RPG's.

[Destroyer2000]

Can you tell me those alternatives? I think I'll save my Character Sets and such that I had with the RM2K3.

[DrNic]

I use the RM2K sometimes. Its good...

[Destroyer2000]

Yes, but it's illegal.

[DrNic]

True.

[Destroyer2000]

Can anyone tell me alternatives for the RPG maker? I'd like to find a creator that I could use legally. Bobtheduck, did you ever get around to doing that? I doubt it, since it hasn't been all THAT long ago.

[Destroyer2000]

Also, would I need a Japanese computer if I imported the Japanese version of it? Or whatever country made it...

[TheMelodyMaker]

Take a look at this for some alternatives (all kinds of engines in there but plenty of RPG-based ones):

http://www.ambrosine.com/resource.html

I've only looked at the OHRRPGCE and the RPG Toolkit myself and both are fairly decent. ^_^

[Bobtheduck]

Also, would I need a Japanese computer if I imported the Japanese version of it? Or whatever country made it...

For RPG Maker 2003, the legal way, Yeah... You need Japanese Windows because they install the system files in different folders... You could get a Japanese windows OS and install it and go dual OS.

Unfortunately, because windows 2000 is definately NOT outdated, the translation of RPG maker 2003 is illegal even if you own the original.

[Destroyer2000]

I mean getting a Japanese comp and getting the untranslated version.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

this may be reviving an old thread, but what about rpg maker 2000? whioch was... distrubuted by a different person. Like a Russian guy or something

[uc pseudonym]

Are you referring to a consule game or to a piece of software developed and distributed through the internet? If you speak of the software I have in mind, the intention of it is to be downloaded.

[Fireproof]

*Jaw drops* Oh my goodness...I just found a translation patch for a legally purchased version of RPG Maker XP. The site I found it on also mentions that Enterbrain may make an actual english version! *Points to site* http://www.phylomortis.com/html/xp-patch.html
I'd look for some tech for 200, but I'm getting tired. *Yawns* Hope... Link... Useful... *Falls over, asleep, snoring softly and babbling about lepruchauns and their purple shamrock laser beams*

[Destroyer2000]

Hmm...Fireproof, the patch you found, I must own the program to use it?

[Fireproof]

Yes. You'll need to legally pruchase the Japanese version and install it, but it's a lot better than going without, though the game does run a pricey $90. >.< I'll get you a link to purchase RMXP if you're intrested.

[zoupzuop2]

I believe it's been said that ASCII has given up on trying to make RPG Maker 2000 illegal (the way some people download it for free, that is), and were in fact interested in trying to get Don Miguel, the original translator of their first RPG Maker, RPG Maker 95, to work for them. I MAY be wrong...

(I once downloaded one of Don's older hacks, Fighter Maker 95... terrible. Not only was it illegal, it was just downright annoying and lacking an RTP. )

I'm currently using Both of the 2nd most current RPG Makers, those being 2000 and 2003... and I'm ready to give up 2000 in a heartbeat, but 2003 less so. The issue/debate over the legality of either purchasing it or just giving it up for lost is still going on, from what I hear.

I'd be sad to see all my work on my Ranma 1/2 RPG go... *snif*

(Hey, look on the bright side... "Minerva" will be legal AND free! Minerva is from a small group by the name of "R-PG". They have an RM2K3 map importer, so I won't have to lose ALL my work before flushing years of work away...)

[zoupzuop2]

Take a look at this for some alternatives (all kinds of engines in there but plenty of RPG-based ones):

http://www.ambrosine.com/resource.html

I've only looked at the OHRRPGCE and the RPG Toolkit myself and both are fairly decent. ^_^

Okay, Melody... I only ask you do one thing...

SAVE YOURSELF AND NEVER GET TOOLKIT!!![size=84]It's THE worst program out there, bar none. It's legal but it STINKS. It's buggy, it doesn't work, and it's just a big 'ol waste of time.[/size]

[TheMelodyMaker]

Oh, don't worry... I gave up on the Toolkit a long time ago. The OHRRPGCE is the one for me. ^_^ (The only thing I like about the Toolkit is the included music. )

[Azier the Swordsman]

I believe it's been said that ASCII has given up on trying to make RPG Maker 2000 illegal (the way some people download it for free, that is), and were in fact interested in trying to get Don Miguel, the original translator of their first RPG Maker, RPG Maker 95, to work for them. I MAY be wrong...

And the moral of the story is, making illegal hacks gets you a job.