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Help! I don't know what to do!
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:43 pm
by Chosen
I have a friend who has been dealing with demonic oppresion for three years now, though I have only known him since September. We have been praying about it and it left for four days but then it came back.
About this demonic thing, the stuff that has been going on is realy weird.
In one instance (the latest) he was out side siting on the ground leaning aganst a tree asleep. when he woke his jacket was off laying on the ground and he had his knife in his hand the knife he had left insde.
this is only one instance others worse in nature have occured.
it has spoken to him he has even seen it.
We are both Christians and have been for a while. I have tried everything I can think of (as has he) please pray for him and if you have any ideas please post.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:20 pm
by Needle Noggin
Make him take a bath in holy water.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:27 pm
by Chosen
where do you get holy water?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:29 pm
by Needle Noggin
Church. Ask the priest for some.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:31 pm
by Chosen
Priest? I'm not catholic! more of a bapti-costal...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:31 pm
by rocklobster
I think Needle Noggin might be being facetious here. If you are, Needle Noggin, your sarcasm is invalid. Many people believe in demonic possession and the believe should not be taken lightly. (I myself am somewhat skeptical, but I don't believe in belittling the people who disagree with me)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:34 pm
by Chosen
it's not possession it's called oppresion.
oh and try reading the Bible, it talks about demonic "possession"
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:35 pm
by Needle Noggin
Grabing knives against your will isn't possesion?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:36 pm
by dyzzispell
Has he been checked for a
sleepwalking disorder? I'm not joking or making light of the situation. I just think physical explanations should be exhausted before demonic is assumed.
I say this because I went through a period in my past where I was haunted by demons - but I caused it by believing every weird thing that happened to me was demonic in nature. I used to see them everywhere. I now know I was just seeing things in the dark when my eyes played tricks on me. I was physically attacked a few times and it was beyond scary. I later came to know that that is called "
sleep paralysis", and many people experience it, along with hallucinations. My obsession with demons at the time probably contributed to the form of the hallucination.
Not that I don't believe in demonic oppression. I know it happens. But what you described sounds like a sleepwalking episode.
Just a thought.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:37 pm
by Chosen
this is him, i was just sleeping.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:40 pm
by Chosen
this is me (I told him just now not to use my account to post) it has tried to kill him in the past. I think its either trying to drive him crazy or kill him (which ever works first)
by the way he coudn't have gone in the house without his mom seeing him
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:43 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
Alright Needle Noggin, quit joking around here. Some people don't appreciate the crap that you spew out of your mouth.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:44 pm
by Syreth
If he genuinely believes that he is experiencing this, he needs to get counsel from a mature Christian or a trusted pastor. He should also be reading his Bible and praying alot (if he isn't already). It's tricky to get advice on a forum with this, and it generally goes beyond the purpose of this particular forum. It would be a much better idea to get help from someone who knows him at church. If he isn't plugged into a church, this would be a good reason to do so.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:46 pm
by Chosen
we go to the same church and We talked to the youth pastor about it.
I have to log off, Mom said ;_;
please keep posting, I'll read later. thanks!
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:22 pm
by Photosoph
Definitely go to your church and check with your pastor. Also, though some may have different views about different evangelists etc, personally I think going to see a person like an evangelist with a healing ministry or something could be good; however, it does depend on the evangelist, and others may not agree with me there.
However, no matter what course you take, there's one thing that I do strongly suggest: pray. Even if you're not sure what direction or advice to take: pray. God knows the situation, just trust in him, try to keep your hope up and not give into despair, and keep praying. He will protect you and your friend; keep reading your bible and praying, as I'm sure you're already doing.
God's there, and he can help. Whether it's sleep-walking or a form of opression, God can help and/or send someone along to help all the same.
Also, if you post a request for prayer in the prayer requests forum, there are Christians there who will support you in prayer as well.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:15 pm
by fairyprincess90
i really dont know what to say about this but my youth pastor is insane smart. i'll see what he says about it.
i'll be praying for him in the meantime.
gosh that must be horrible.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:08 am
by silver_wolf454
Oh wow that's realy scary I'll pray for him.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:59 am
by samuraidragon
I would recommended seeing an exorcist, but since you're not Catholic I guess that won't happen.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:12 am
by fairyprincess90
okay so heres what my youth pastor wrote to me...
Dear Beth,
So my advice to your friend:
First, Tell your friend to get Bible-based pastoral counseling and see what they say. Next, if they are really looking for answers, do you remember the book I asked you to read- Stomping out the Darkness? That book, by Neil Anderson & Dave Park, is followed up by a couple of others that deal with demonic oppression from a solid, Christian perspective- The Bondage Breaker (youth edition) and The seduction of our Children. I have read the Bondage Breaker and think it would be a great start for someone who fears that they are struggling with demons. Finally- Colossians 2:13-15- Talks about the power of Christ over demons- basically, as a result of the cross, the only power demons have over us is the power we give them.
and then he wrote me other stuff concerning just me ^_^
so yeah.
i dont know if that really helps but... i hope it does.
this is ... a hard topic.
only by the power of God though can your friend be rid of demons.
i'm praying for him and i think constant prayer is a good thing for him right now.
i hope it helps.
-FP
PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:04 pm
by seventh circle
Needle Noggin wrote:Grabing knives against your will isn't possesion?
the way it was described weather there were other people there or not idk, but it was described as spontanious transportation of an object from one place to another. Its like staring at an empty table and then sudenly ur keys u lost a month ago apear right before ur eyes.
I say slap him some just to make sure and then take him to see a preist or pastor. The demon in the presence of a real holy man, such as a pastor or preist, should become unable to remain in his body or even enter the building and ur friend should be freed of this curse.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:07 pm
by Jingo Jaden
In my prayer.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:53 pm
by Rogie
I'm moving this to the Prayer Room, with a reminder that prayer and supportive comments are encouraged. However, we will not tolerate any negative comments or comments that stir up debate.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:39 pm
by Kamakazi
Chosen wrote:I have a friend who has been dealing with demonic oppresion for three years now, though I have only known him since September. We have been praying about it and it left for four days but then it came back.
About this demonic thing, the stuff that has been going on is realy weird.
In one instance (the latest) he was out side siting on the ground leaning aganst a tree asleep. when he woke his jacket was off laying on the ground and he had his knife in his hand the knife he had left insde.
this is only one instance others worse in nature have occured.
it has spoken to him he has even seen it.
We are both Christians and have been for a while. I have tried everything I can think of (as has he) please pray for him and if you have any ideas please post.
hmm.... was he just saved? or is your friend saved yet? because if your friend is saved then it should have no power over you. its like a renter that doesn't pay rent. it expects to live in you. when you kick it out you've got to fill in the space it took with something better (GOD). pray in the name of jesus. in the bible observe paul, and how he cast out demons from people. take authority over the demon, because you have authority over it. its not you the demon sees. its God standing right behind you.
if all else fails, get a pastors help.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:23 pm
by Chosen
Not to go reviving dead threads, but it's been a long time since I've been able to post here.
I want to thank all of you. There have been no instances for almost five months now.
Once again I thank you and please keep him in your prayers.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:30 pm
by animewarrior
I will. I'm kind of disturbed also because I have 2 friends and MYSELF who has experienced demonic oppression. Its REAL and very scary... actually this thread is making me think about it which isn't a good idea but w.e I'll live I suppose and I haven't killed anyone yet...sorry if this seems insane but I bordering on the edge of that.... pray for me too...please... >< but God won't alllow him or anyone to be tempted beyond what you can bear so good luck and I'll pray hard.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:00 pm
by Blitzkrieg1701
Wow. Well, I'm glad God has provided deliverance in that situation, and i'll be praying for you, animewarrior
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:04 pm
by 12praiseGOD
WHat is the difference between oppressed and possesed?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:34 pm
by SnEptUne
Oppressed meant being "crushed" or overwhelmed physically by the demonic spirit; on the other hand, possessed would meant being controlled and invaded by the spirit both physically and mentally.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:16 pm
by animewarrior
12praiseGOD (post: 1191416) wrote:WHat is the difference between oppressed and possesed?
Well demonic possession occurs ONLY with Non-Christians. The Emily Rose case isn't possibly a possession. It might have been a demonic oppression but I don't know.
The oppression can occur with anyone. satan, in fact, PREFERS Christians to target because it hinders them. He does it to prevent them from becoming an important force against him. I've been praying REALLY hard for the individual.
If you look back at my previous post, I am also subject to demonic oppression. I've had prophetic words spoken to me and she said I'm supposed to lead a lot of ppl...which is beyond me. The demonic forces are getting stronger..I don't know if anyone has noticed...anyways I've definitely got issues with the subject... many times I've felt the urge to randomly even kill ppl I don't even know!! not the norm for me. I don't know if anyone thinks this is crap but honestly I'm not lying here..
anyways I'll keep praying, Chosen, for your friend.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:20 am
by SnEptUne
Demonic possession can occurs to everyone, Christian or not. However, it is indeed a lot more difficult to possess a Christian who possess spiritual strength and guidance from Christianity. But it really depends on who you called "Christian". If it is someone who only goes to churches every Sunday, donate money, prays to God for every little problems without putting up efforts him/herself, read bible just as a duty without really trying to understand the teaching of Jesus, then that someone probably isn't anything better off when it comes to possession.
Satan does tend indeed prefer Christian, and probably Muslim. Just look at the blood sled in the name of religion, the intolerence and hatred created by them.