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yes i know i'm not suppose to hate...but he makes it so easy to do so...just...pray for my mom and i...my dad's...well...a butt...yesterday, i was just doing my stuff for school and listening to some music(loud enough to the point that i couldn't hear anyone), and my dad was trying to ask me if i had gotten this little paper from my counselor(i'm not doing to well at school). after about the 2nd time of him trying to get my attention i told him that i didn't know i was suppose to get one...he started getting upset and saying things:stressed: (i've tried to show him love and compassion...no he's not a christian...he's barely even a catholic...my mom and i have tried to witness to him...although it's not working...he just doesn't care...) anyway when he started to get it he was all..."well why didn't you tell her?!" and then he said, "she needs to stop messing around and get to work!" i tried to tell him calmly while acting confused that i was working...it just wasn't on what they were talking about cuz i had no idea so then my mom said frankly, "Daniel she is working." and he started to get upset..."WELL WHY DIDN'T SHE TELL ME?!(i was in the room) DON'T MAKE ME LOOK LIKE A FOOL IN FRONT OF HER! SHUT YOUR MOUTH! YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BUT IN! JUST SHUT. YOUR. MOUTH!" and then he threw the paper at me and started to shut down his computer...and then he started to look at me, "GET OUT OF THE ROOM! I DON'T EVEN WANNA LOOK AT YOU! I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GET OUT! LEAVE! GO IN YOUR ROOM! YOU SEE WHAT YOU DID?! IF YOU JUST WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT! NOW YOU SEE WHAT ARGUING IS! THIS IS ARGUING! GET OUT OF HERE! I DON'T WANNA LOOK AT YOU ANYMORE!" after that i went in my room...i was furious...i can't stand to see him that way with my mom and me...last night i started thinking rather stupidly...i was thinking that if my dad saw me unconscious or hurt, he might care a little about me...or think that what he's doing is messing me up (which it is)...so i started banging my head against the table trying to knock myself out...not a good thing...i stopped and now i have bruises on my forehead...

this morning...or rather this afternoon(i didn't wake up until 1), my mom comes in and says, "i don't know how much longer i can stand him...i'm really on the verge of divorcing him...and if he keeps this up then i will...i just don't want you to be suprised if we do get one..." i know after my grandmother dies (she's very sick at the moment and it doesn't look good for her...) his words and actions will get even worse...i don't know how much longer i can take this...and my heart is really hardend towards him right now...and i know i should forgive him...but at the moment it's very hard for me to do...

he never says he loves me(unless i say it first but then he'll be like, "ya whatever i love you too") and he's never said he's proud of me for anything...not even when i've tried my hardest on something...(he'll just say, "do better next time...") he screams at me and my mom...he cusses at both of us...and he doesn't care if it hurts us...he always finds my flaws and points them out all the time nagging me about it...one thing he won't do is hit me...only cuz he knows i can fight back...and he won't hit my mother either cuz he knows i'll kick his butt...

just...pray for my family and for me...i don't want them to slip...and he's driving me nuts...thanks...

~chris

Oh, of course I'll pray, my dear Chris. That sounds really horrible. I honestly don't know what I would do in that situation. I'm so sorry that you have to go through that. Don't forget, the Lord loves you, and so do we.

thanks angey...

You're very welcome. I hope this is resolved soon.

*hugs superly*
I don't think you hate your father. I think you just hate how he makes you feel. You love him and you want to love and be loved but he denies you of that. That's not hate, that's hurt. That's pain no one should ever have to go through but everyone does. Remember that no matter what god is the Father, not him, and God is also the Judge. He will see to your father. Pray for him and pray he sees God soon. Remember everything happens for a reason and God will never give you more than you can bear. He will stay by your side through this. Just be there for your mother and be patient with your father. I know that's hard but doing so will make you both a stronger and better person. Don't ever sink to his level. Be the mature one. Because he obviously isn't. And he should be.
I'm always here if you need me, feel free to throw me a pm or something. *hugs again* You'll be in my prayers, love.
<3 Angel

I'll pray that G

ToT That's so sad! *hugs* That sounds absolutely horrible... I'll definitely pray for your family. I'll also pray God can help you forgive him. I know I definitely wouldn't be able to forgive him if I was in your situation, but pray that God can help you forgive him. That reminds me of a part at the end of The Hiding Place where Corrie meets one of her former guards who had become a Christian (She was in a concentration camp in WW2). She says in the book that the very last thing she wanted to do was shake that man's hand and talk nicely with him, but she asked God to help her forgive him and she was able to then. That's possibly my favorite part of the book.

Well sorry for rambling. I'll pray ^^ Remember, people see God's love through us Christians and sometimes that's the best witness.

You knowing I am praying.

Dont Give Up!! Keep trying God can always make
a way
remeber God loves You and would Never put you in a situation
he culdnt get you out of dont lose heart ive been in very simalair situations
with my famly and i know its hard, but ive learned if you dont give
and keep showing love to people regardles of there reaction,God can do powerful stuff, remember when he rejects you hes really rejecting God, keep showing love so he can see Jesus in you, and remeber your not in it alone Jesus IS with you and HE IS in Control
Were all For You .....and more important God is for you

I'll be praying for you too.

I'm praying, Chris.

Volt, I don't mean anything by this but I just can't really seem to agree with what you said.

Personally i don't think he deserves you guys, and until you leave his life and let him see what he's become, he won't realize this. If he's cold toward you, be cold towards him, yes you should't sink to his level, but if you've been nice to him all this time, showing him compassion, and he not realizing it. Let him know what it's like. Take away your kindess towards him, let him realize what he's missing.

When he messes up tell him "you'll do better next time", if he never says I love you, then every once in a while remind him of what a butthole he is by saying "Yea, I'm not sure if I love you either." as you walk by.

That, I don't believe is the answer.
Christ says to show love and compassion. Even when he was dying on the cross he forgave the ones who were killing him.
He says "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Your statement would be only fuel to the fire, I think.
I'm just saying I don't think Christ would agree with that.

But I'll be praying for you C.T. and remember, God is right there beside you!

Angel37 wrote:*hugs superly*
I don't think you hate your father. I think you just hate how he makes you feel. You love him and you want to love and be loved but he denies you of that. That's not hate, that's hurt. That's pain no one should ever have to go through but everyone does. Remember that no matter what god is the Father, not him, and God is also the Judge. He will see to your father. Pray for him and pray he sees God soon. Remember everything happens for a reason and God will never give you more than you can bear. He will stay by your side through this. Just be there for your mother and be patient with your father. I know that's hard but doing so will make you both a stronger and better person. Don't ever sink to his level. Be the mature one. Because he obviously isn't. And he should be.
I'm always here if you need me, feel free to throw me a pm or something. *hugs again* You'll be in my prayers, love.
<3 Angel

yah...when i read you post i was like, "who does she thinks she is?! of course i hate my dad!" but then i started thinking about it...and you're right...although i don't know how much longer i can stand being nice to him...i haven't talked to him since he told me to leave...and once i'm 18 i am leaving...of course i'll come back to visit but that's it...(anyone want a roomate? )

thanks guys for your prayers...and volt...it would only add to his anger...

he never says he loves me(unless i say it first but then he'll be like, "ya whatever i love you too") and he's never said he's proud of me for anything...not even when i've tried my hardest on something...(he'll just say, "do better next time...") he screams at me and my mom...he cusses at both of us...and he doesn't care if it hurts us...he always finds my flaws and points them out all the time nagging me about it...

I know how ya feel. For a major part of my life my mom would always try to look for faults just to argue. Then curse me out. It really seemed like that she couldn't live w/o agruing in her life. Later she would blame it on her depression and etc... sure.... My mom never really came to my extra curricular stuff like sports or anything. I would always have to get rides home from my friend b/c he also did sports. Kind of sucks when you parent's never really show support in ya. Makes you think, why bother? Or maybe, if I do this, run away or something then I'll get some kind of recognition thats shows they care for me.

My only advise is not to pain yourself on doing something to get attention. If that's the only way to get attention it's not worth it. Continue to be a child of God and have faith that He'll pull you through. That way, once you over come any obstacle you know you did it yourself; that you had the strength to do it. Do things to better yourself (for you), not to get someone to recognize us or to have them show they care. I know if you do that, you'll be much happier.

To be honest it's hard for me to say "I love you," and stuff like that- even to people I'm close to. It's not that I don't care, it's just I don't feel comfortable saying so. Although I may not say it, I let people know I care through my actions. Everyone is different.

I can relate to ya and I'll keep you in my prayers.

I'm so sorry about what's happening to you...

I will pray for you though...

thanks you guys...and yah...i know i shouldn't care what he thinks...but i just wanted to get him to understand that he's putting my life through crap and he needs to stop.

*glomps ctgirl*

And I've never glomped anyone before.


Wow, my heart really goes out to you, ct. I will definately be praying for you and your family. Please don't give up hope!

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Volt wrote:I'm not going against Christ's word, it is true that you must show compassion to your enemy, but there is Limit as to how much you can spoil a butthole. If you spoil them too much, they'll see it as a Reward for being negative and cruel. You'll be feeding the fire.

I am curious about what you intend with that statement. What about 70x7?

Nevertheless, c.t.,girl, I feel for you. I will be praying.

I'll be praying for you c.t., and your mom, and your dad. I can't understand how difficult that your situation must be...

Last night at church the pastor spoke on Genesis 50:15-21 where Joseph reassured his brothers that he'd forgiven them because God brought everything about for good. Ya, I know that phrase is used a lot and sometimes seems trite but still it is so true and a source of comfort and strength if we really think about it. And it isn't that God only *means* circumstances for good but sometimes they don't work out that way - no, He will *always* guide them to work out for good.

Of course at this time there are probably very few "good" things that you can see coming from this. And maybe you'll never see the good in this situation, while you are this side of heaven. But like Last Bard said, God is right there beside you! May you feel his strength and nearness to keep you persevering through this, and to give you wisdom in relating to your dad.

*hugs*

Yeesh that must be awful, you'll be receiving my prayers tonight

So I guess we should let out all the Murderers out of Jail and "forgive" them?

We are not talking about murderers...Neither does God agree with
letting murderers go. The Death Sentence is not what we are talking
about here.

Or excuse all the Liars for their sins as well?

What are you going to do about liars?
Because I really don't know what I would do about someone who is lying and is twenty years older than myself.

Compassion is one thing, But Life will teach you not to be a sucker. Being a Turd of a Father (like mine was) doesn't deserve Praising and Compassion, For everything you do, there is a consiquence. If he's not man enough to love his daughter and wife, then he doesn't deserve them, that's the consequence.

Would you please go back and read my post? I never said we should praise people like that...

That's the real world. They've shown him enough love, They've treated him as they would treat themselves. They've given him chance after chance, and if he doesn't want it... he'll have to figure it out the hard way.

I'm sorry, but I don't remember any verse any the Bible where God tells us how long we should continue to love someone.
But he does say "Love you enemies"

When David was running from Saul near the end of Saul's reign Saul was in battle and was fleeing when one of David's servants managed to kill him.
He came to David with the crown expecting great praise.
Instead David had him killed for killing the King. Even though Saul had been trying to kill David.

I really didn't want to make this a big deal, really. But I'm sorry that you took my previous message differently than I meant.
And remember, this is about C.T. not us. Let's not make this a topic for arguing.

God Bless C.T. and I'm prayin' for you!

God Bless,
Aaron L. N.

i agree with last bard. For Jesus was the ONLY one not to sin ,the only who did not deserve to go to hell. No one else, not me not you not The profets not the apostles not mary or joeseph no one. no one but Jesus. we all deserve to suffer in hell for eternity! But Jesus who was God in the flesh who we have all sinned against, who we have all done wrong to, who weve all done worst to than hittler did unto those now call themself the jews. Jesus who is justified in haveing us all go to hell for what we have done to him, loved us, and while we were still sinners he loved us enough to bare the cross and to die for us, and what did he say right before he went to die for us, "love one another as i have loved you so you must love one another".
how then can anyone not forgive someone else when weve done far worst to God and he still loved us, loved us enough to bare the cross

thats a pretty rough time you guys seem to be going through, i'll, pray for you.

I hope everything gets sorted out for ya.

I'm sincerely very sorry about what you're going through. I know it hurts-- I have great parents who love me and they still hurt me sometimes, so I can't even imagine what the hurt must be like living with a parent who doesn't even show you love. I'll pray for you and your mom. Just remember, if you don't show him God's love now, it may be that no one else ever will. As painful as it is, this is also a great opportunity for you to show him what Christ's love is really like. Completely undeserved. I'll pray that God will give you the strength to do so!

Wow..im sorry..I'll be praying for you, I know what its like though..my dad was worse when I was little...I always feared him...a kid shouldnt have to be afraid their father is going to kill them. He's much better now...although he still cusses his head off at us. But I've come to forgive him....because when I think about it....look what Jesus did for us...I mean none of us ever deserved His forgivness for all the times we've hurt him, but He forgives us anyway...no matter what...so I cant stay angry at him. *hug* Im praying, God Bless!

c.t.,girl wrote:yah...when i read you post i was like, "who does she thinks she is?! of course i hate my dad!" but then i started thinking about it...and you're right...although i don't know how much longer i can stand being nice to him...i haven't talked to him since he told me to leave...and once i'm 18 i am leaving...of course i'll come back to visit but that's it...(anyone want a roomate? )

thanks guys for your prayers...and volt...it would only add to his anger...

I know how you feel. I used to feel the same way, that I hated my mom. But I don't. I hate how she treats me. I want to be loved but that's denied me. If you hated your father you wouldn't care what he thought about you. The fact that his words hurt you means you love him because you care about what he says. *hugs* And I have been praying for you. I know how it feels and I wish I could offer better advice. But your idea is pretty much mine- when I'm 18, I'm out.
<3 Angel

c.t.,girl

I know how you feel and i will definately pray 4 you

Guys, remember that this is a prayer thread. No fighting, arguing, and off-topic ranting (referring to a few posts ago in this thread). I'm sure c.t.,girl doesn't want these debates going on in a very serious thread with a very serious prayer request that she posted. She's requesting prayer from her brothers and sisters in Christ, and that's what we need to do: pray for her and her family right now.

And again, I am praying, Chris, and please keep us posted on how things are going.

I'll pray also, i hope your family life gets better. We all love u!:hug: