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Life's little problems (Help? ><)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:49 am
by Angel Mitsuki
Hello minna-san! ^^ I haven't been here for along while, but some may remember me asking for help with a yaoi subject months ago. Anyways though, I am very happii to announce my yaoi fangirlness has been knocked down, burned, trampled on, and basically just destroyed XD

However, I do have two more problems that have popped up and would really like some help! ^^;

Ok, the first one has to do with a manga. You see, awhile back I found a manga that was very good and interesting! It did have a lot of sexual scenes, but nothing that could mark it hentai--just more mature (not to mention somewhat realistic with our world today). Over all I really liked the story, it's characters, and just everything about it! It kind of gave me some ideas of what NOT to do in my future because of what bad things could happen...errr, but then it happened.

Many books later, the main character's brother says he's inlove with her! o_o; Ok, now let's just say I practically dropped it all after hearing that. I loved the story so much, but suddenly about three books later we get this annoying news that's like "Was this REALLY neccesary?!" Now here's my problem. I want to keep reading the story because I love it, but I just don't like that aspect! It's not like I LOVE incest, I find it very wrong and gross to be honest! >< In fact, I just totally ignored/skipped any of that stuff XD But is it wrong to do that?

I mean, it's not like my yaoi problem before. Before I use to love yaoi and it came down to "how can you support/love something God hates?" but this is very different. In this case I don't support it or anything! Like I said, I just ignore all those things and pretend they don't exsist--it works *lol* But I just don't want to keep reading it like that if it's wrong, ya know? ^^;;; After all, it's not like this incest thing is way too important...it did come in so late and before this all I didn't even acknowledge the brother o_o; So...any ideas?

Is it ok to like the story and characters if I totally hate and ignore the bad things? *lol* I think so, but it's always good to hear some opinions! ^^;


Now the second problem...


For the longest time now, I've been bugged by my faith err...well not bugged, but it's hard to explain. Basically let's say I sit in my room talking to myself repeating I hate Hell, the Devil, the Anti-Christ, etc. but love Heaven, God, Jesus Christ, etc. It's like, I know what I believe in and so does God, but I keep feeling like the Devil's sitting there thinking he's winning and since he's not I have to shove it down his throat. <.<;;;

I know some of you may say " Try and not worry about it" but I've tried! >< I've prayed for help and even talked to my mom but she doesn't know what to do! And it's not that I hate it, but it's ALWAYS happening. When I'm in the shower, at school, trying to read, draw, ANYTHING! ><;;; It's not that I hate laughing at Satan and praising God, but it's like "Why can't I think of...other things?" I mean, most 15 yr. old's don't even care about this kind of stuff...but it's not that I don't want to care either! I want to care, but, well...you understand what I mean ^^;;; It's just nice to not worry myself sick...

So any help? Any at all? I would really appreciate it! ^^

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:47 am
by Mangafanatic
Angel Mitsuki wrote:Hello minna-san! ^^ I haven't been here for along while, but some may remember me asking for help with a yaoi subject months ago. Anyways though, I am very happii to announce my yaoi fangirlness has been knocked down, burned, trampled on, and basically just destroyed XD


I am so glad to hear that! Congratulations!

However, I do have two more problems that have popped up and would really like some help! ^^]

Mangakas seem to enjoy throwing this sort of thing into their manga. Incest, yaoi-- you name it, they'll do it. It's really sad, but it's just one of those realities we have to accept with out fandom.

Is it wrong to just skip over it and enjoy the story? Well, that's not really something I can say for you. We all have a certain tolerence level, and there are something I can ignore in manga. On the other hand, I think there are times when we need to put our foot down, no matter how sad it makes us. From the way you're briefly discribes this manga, I'd say that this isn't the last time mention of this relationship will occur. My guess is that, considering the nature of the piece, her brother's taboo feelings are going to be elaborated on. I might very well be wrong, but you should carefully think through what you're going to do if that happens.

Also, I just wanna add one thing really quickly. Even putting aside the incest in this manga, how do you feel about the sexual element? You may be able to put that aside, but I want to warn you that if you think it might at all sway your convictions concerning sexual purity-- stay away from it. This may be a stupid warning, but I just wanted to give you something to think about when milling over this whole issue.

I mean, it's not like my yaoi problem before. Before I use to love yaoi and it came down to "how can you support/love something God hates?" but this is very different. In this case I don't support it or anything! Like I said, I just ignore all those things and pretend they don't exsist--it works *lol* But I just don't want to keep reading it like that if it's wrong, ya know? ^^;;; After all, it's not like this incest thing is way too important...it did come in so late and before this all I didn't even acknowledge the brother o_o; So...any ideas?


I guess the question that I have to ask myself is "By downloading/buying this manga, despite the fact that I'm ignoring what's 'bad' in it, aren't I supporting incest?" To me, it boils down to the fact that my money is what's speaking for me. I'm sending a message to the world about who I am and what I accept by buying something. That's just a little something to consider when you make your decision.


My overall advice (yeah, I bet you see this coming): Ditch it. I hate to be so negative ( :hits_self ), but considering your age and the struggles you've already battled-- I think it's just unfair to yourself to throw one more problem into the equation. There's something about "forbidden passion" that appeal to a sinful heart (like mine), and trying to read it and yet avoid it is going to be a very slippery slope.


For the longest time now, I've been bugged by my faith err...well not bugged, but it's hard to explain. Basically let's say I sit in my room talking to myself repeating I hate Hell, the Devil, the Anti-Christ, etc. but love Heaven, God, Jesus Christ, etc. It's like, I know what I believe in and so does God, but I keep feeling like the Devil's sitting there thinking he's winning and since he's not I have to shove it down his throat. <.<;;;

I know some of you may say " Try and not worry about it" but I've tried! >< I've prayed for help and even talked to my mom but she doesn't know what to do! And it's not that I hate it, but it's ALWAYS happening. When I'm in the shower, at school, trying to read, draw, ANYTHING! ><;;; It's not that I hate laughing at Satan and praising God, but it's like "Why can't I think of...other things?" I mean, most 15 yr. old's don't even care about this kind of stuff...but it's not that I don't want to care either! I want to care, but, well...you understand what I mean ^^;;; It's just nice to not worry myself sick...

So any help? Any at all? I would really appreciate it! ^^


Sweetie, if you're accepted Jesus, the Devil is beat and he knows it. Infact, he was beaten when Jesus died for us all. Now, he's just grabbing at all the glory he can get before his firey end.

It sounds like what you'e suffering from sort of "guilt" problem. I'd say I went through something similar. For probably a year in my early teens, I would ask Jesus to be my savior atleast once a day. I lived in constant fear of dying and going to Hell. I did my devotionals religiously for no other reason than that I was afraid God would say to me in Heaven "I don't know you. You didn't do your devotionals."

I realize our problems aren't the same, but I think the key to your being set free from this worrying is to totally accept who you are in Jesus. Rely solely on him as your means of salvation. Nothing you can do or say will strengthen that salvation or diminish it. He has made you blameless in the sight of God, and the Devil is steamin' about it. Sadly for him, there's not a darn thing he can do about it.

Rest in the assuarance of your salvation, my friend! :hug: I'll be praying for all your struggles. Just keep us updates, okay?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:22 am
by termyt
The devil does not assault those he's already convinced. He assaults those who belong to the Lord. Therefore rejoice that the forces of darkness have seen it necessary to bug you.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:11 pm
by Angel Mitsuki
*sigh* As much as I wish it wasn't true, I'm gonna ditch it. *lol* Your probably right about it getting more indepth later Mangafanatic, so I better drop it before I get too attached. ^^; But I also think you hit the nail on the head on the second subject. I worry a lot about going to Hell and stuff, so that's probably why ><; Course, termyt's probably right...it probably means I'm a good person and that's why I'm being bugged, but it's just one of those things...^^;

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:43 pm
by agasfas
I worry a lot about going to Hell and stuff, so that's probably why ><; Course, termyt's probably right...it probably means I'm a good person and that's why I'm being bugged, but it's just one of those things...^^;
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As long as you believe and trust in Jesus, there is no reason to fear hell because you have already been saved. Like you and Mangafanatic I was athe same way in my ealier teen years. I thought if I made any mistakes I turned my back on Jesus. I would always ask to be resaved... I was afraid I did something too horrible. But that isn't the case. We all fall short in life. Don't be afraid of failure. That's the only way we will continue to learn and grow. It's what you do with that failure that counts. Just remember we are all sinners. If you fall, pick yourself up and keep going. Dreading over the past isn't good and if we do, it's impossible to move forward. It took me a while to figure that one out. Jesus knows we all sin but he continues to love us. It's all forgiven.
Keep putting your faith in Jesus and you'll be just fine.

I will continue to pray for you.