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Postby Gabriel 9.0 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:22 am

Kunoichi (post: 1239880) wrote:In my opinion....

sin is sin. There is no "larger" sin or "smaller" sin. Telling a lie is the same as committing murder. *Now i don't mean I think that the consequence on a human level is the same but that in the eyes of God, there is no greater or smaller sin.*

The reason i say this is because murderers can be forgiven just as easy as liars or thieves.

In terms of castration, you could do this and yes it may diminish the sex drive. But that doesn't mean it will stop lust. Lust is lust, and doesn't always have to deal with sexual lust as physical or monetary etc. Though often lust is seen and experience sexually.

I think that lust can only be overcome with God's strength, means of removing temptation (if most happen when you are alone or idle then force yourself to play a game or do something constructive).

This is my opinion and take it as you wish


I concur 100% Kelly:thumb:
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Psalm91
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

Hebrews 4-4
1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.



James 4
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.



Revelation 22:14
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Postby Prince Asbel » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:58 am

Kunoichi (post: 1239880) wrote:In my opinion....

sin is sin. There is no "larger" sin or "smaller" sin. Telling a lie is the same as committing murder. *Now i don't mean I think that the consequence on a human level is the same but that in the eyes of God, there is no greater or smaller sin.*

The reason i say this is because murderers can be forgiven just as easy as liars or thieves.


Well, there are worse sins than others. You can see that in the OT with greater punishments meted out for greater sins. What I think you and I believe is that there is no degree of sin that can take away our salvation.

Kunoichi (post: 1239880) wrote:In terms of castration, you could do this and yes it may diminish the sex drive. But that doesn't mean it will stop lust. Lust is lust, and doesn't always have to deal with sexual lust as physical or monetary etc. Though often lust is seen and experience sexually.

I think that lust can only be overcome with God's strength, means of removing temptation (if most happen when you are alone or idle then force yourself to play a game or do something constructive).

This is my opinion and take it as you wish


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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:51 pm

Lone Gamer (post: 1239776) wrote:Better safe than sorry, I mean if i don't defeat this somehow im going to end up going to Hell.


Dude . . . that's a pretty hopeless and legalistic perspective. It's precisely the type of mentality that causes people to say "well it's too late for me now anyway, no use to keep fighting." Once you're saved, you're saved. Your name is written in blood, it can't be erased. Grace is the key, it's the whole point of Christianity.
Now on the other side of that, don't assume that we sin so that grace may abound. We want to make ourselves better people, we want to serve the Lord and do things His way because we are so grateful and so madly in love with Him that we just can't help but want to do right by Him.

Legalistic, "religious" Christianity is just very damaging and very self-defeating. Getting into Heaven doesn't depend on whether we're good enough. If that were the case, this thread wouldn't exist.
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Postby IchiTone » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:12 am

Spoony, it's IchiTone.

I meant to call you and talk to you about this personally, but it's become a very urgent matter and I need your help. I need an accountability partner, and of all the people I know personally...well, you're really the strongest Christian I know.

You've been a great friend to me, and I've always respected you for that as well as your firm, unyielding love for God. Lust is becoming a real issue for me, and if you're willing...I could use that friendship to come clean with someone who can understand.
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Postby fairyprincess90 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:41 pm

just discovered this thread even though it's at the top of the prayer room thing.


ehem. yes i am a girl. but i struggle with porn. girls can have the same struggles too...this is a little odd though since most of you are all guys. i haven't read everything that's on here.......just like the first page. I'm praying for all of you and I hope some of you will pray for me.

I can get a pretty good grip on it sometimes...and then like I'll find myself slipping again. I feel really embarrassed after I'm done looking at it..I wish I could just stop. I don't even know why I look at it half the time...but Satan just loves to tempt me with it.

Non of you are evil for struggling with porn or anything else. God put in us a sexual desire...we just need to control it. And it is VERY hard to control it.
But don't get too down on yourselves. Just get determined to not let Satan win. It's tough. But you can do it with God's strength.

Praying for you all. This is a major problem that needs tons of prayers. God Bless.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:48 pm

IchiTone (post: 1242627) wrote:Spoony, it's IchiTone.

I meant to call you and talk to you about this personally, but it's become a very urgent matter and I need your help. I need an accountability partner, and of all the people I know personally...well, you're really the strongest Christian I know.

You've been a great friend to me, and I've always respected you for that as well as your firm, unyielding love for God. Lust is becoming a real issue for me, and if you're willing...I could use that friendship to come clean with someone who can understand.


Sure thing, bro. I'd be happy to do an accountability thing with you. I don't know how exactly one goes about it, but I'll look something up. Feel free to call me anytime.

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Postby IchiTone » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:54 am

My flash drive! I wondered where I lost it. Cool. I'll have to pick that up next time I stop by. Keep it in a safe place for me, would ya?
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Postby Sheenar » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:32 pm

I just fell. Big time. I haven't looked at porn in almost 4 years---and I fell into that today--and m'ing...I hate doing this..i keep willingly sinning even though i know I am sinning against God. My old self keeps coming up...mostly through cursing and now this.
I am disgusted with myself and with my sin. I want to defeat this and crucify my flesh and its desires,
Please pray.
Pray that I'd be willing to wait until marriage and a flesh and blood husband--I know a real relationship will be much more satisfying and holy than looking at images and pleasuring myself.
i'm so ashamed. I know better. I promised God that i wouldn't--I told Him I was done with this sin and didn't want anywhere near it anymore...
I know God's grace is sufficient for me...but I'm amazed he still talks to/listens to me at all...when I willingly disobey Him...
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Postby IchiTone » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:38 am

Sheenar, I will pray for you. Neither gender is immune to the effects of this very damaging sin. And I'm right on the same page with you, trust me! In my case, it took something horrible happening for me to realize I had a problem with lust....and though I continue to fall and pick myself back up, deep down I know that a moment's pleasure is nothing compared to the joy and pleasure God has prepared for my future.

Maybe getting an accountability partner would help? A friend you could confide in that would help you keep in check? Spoony and I are gonna try it out, and it's my hope that we can kick each other's butts if we step out of line. :sweat:

Regardless, don't stop asking God for help. Don't stop asking for His forgiveness, either. You can go back to Him 50 times, 1000 times, a million times....and He'll forgive you each and every single time you do. Let me know if there's any other advice I can give, okay? You're in my prayers!
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:10 pm

IchiTone wrote:Regardless, don't stop asking God for help. Don't stop asking for His forgiveness, either. You can go back to Him 50 times, 1000 times, a million times....and He'll forgive you each and every single time you do. Let me know if there's any other advice I can give, okay? You're in my prayers!


Quoted for Truth. Why give up if the Almighty Himself won't give up on you? Don't ever throw in the towel.
Also, take it seriously. In action as well as thought. Take steps toward prevention, resistence, and most importantly, spiritual enrichment.
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Postby Sheenar » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:12 am

SpoonyBard (post: 1244537) wrote:Quoted for Truth. Why give up if the Almighty Himself won't give up on you? Don't ever throw in the towel.
Also, take it seriously. In action as well as thought. Take steps toward prevention, resistence, and most importantly, spiritual enrichment.


You misunderstand. I wasn't saying God won't talk to me --I know He will. I was saying that it is amazing that He would--I am just amazed at His grace.
So, I'm not giving up. But I can see how my post could have come across that way.
And what is cool is--that same day--I talked to a friend of mine --and she is going through the same struggle. So we are going to keep each other accountable. Praise God! He does put people in your life for a reason...it's amazing.
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Postby Prince Asbel » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:42 am

I'm so sorry you messed up after so long, Sheenar. But look at it this way. Kenny Luck describes failing in trying to stay away from things like porn is a failure, but the pressure and the drive to stay away from it is like a purifying process. Look at it in a positive light, because failures are our way of learning and improving. I looked at soft porn for a year and then broke off of it. Like a year and 1/2 to 2 years later I looked at it again (real, ugly porn) and it went on for another four months before God in his mercy had my Mom catch me in the act. Now it has been like eight months since, and my resistance to porn and lusting is excellent. I still fail some times with lust, but that only makes it harder for me to do it in the future. So now that I look back on that big backslide, though it was a huge sin, my strong persistent work at recovery has made me become a much, much, much better Christian.

So don't despair, okay? You've even found an accountability partner. Now you can help her as well as she can help you.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:07 am

Sheenar (post: 1244664) wrote:You misunderstand. I wasn't saying God won't talk to me --I know He will. I was saying that it is amazing that He would--I am just amazed at His grace.
So, I'm not giving up. But I can see how my post could have come across that way.


No, I know. I just meant in general. And it was more in response to the things in IchiTone's post.
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Postby NekoChan_C » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:24 am

please pray for me... I am a terrible, horrible person... I have become a stumbling block... and now, I may lose my relationship over it. Please pray that God shows mercy to me... I don't feel like I derserve it, but... I am so scared right now... please pray that God will comfort me, no matter what happens now... I feel like crawling into a hole in the ground and giving up on everything... I feel like scum... I feel so dirty... please... just pray for me...?
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Postby fairyprincess90 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:09 am

i'm def praying for you NekoChan
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Postby Prince Asbel » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:00 am

You definitely have my prayers, NekoChan_C. Here's a virtual hug* :hug:
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:25 pm

NekoChan_C wrote:please pray for me... I am a terrible, horrible person...

I remember when I first posted in this thread, that's pretty much the same thing I said.

[Quote=NekoChan_C]I have become a stumbling block... and now, I may lose my relationship over it.[/quote]
I don't know the complete situation, but from what I gather you won't lose your mate if he's in the same boat. As long as you both get through this, it'll work out.

[Quote=NekoChan_C]Please pray that God shows mercy to me... I don't feel like I derserve it, but... I am so scared right now... please pray that God will comfort me, no matter what happens now...[/quote]
Of course you don't. None of us do. That's what makes this a battle worth fighting: we serve a God who loves us, cherishes us, and forgives us despite our ugliness.

NekoChan_C wrote:I feel like crawling into a hole in the ground and giving up on everything... I feel like scum... I feel so dirty... please... just pray for me...?

Sin is indeed its own punishment. And yeah, it's a harsh one. We can certainly thank God that he gives us grace instead of more punishment of His own.

I will be praying for you, Neko nee-san.
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Postby NekoChan_C » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:58 pm

Arigatou, Ototo-chan... I can use all the prayer I can get... maintaining purity is one of the hardest things I have ever been called to do... *sigh*
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Postby MangArtist » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:29 pm

NekoChan_C (post: 1245212) wrote:Arigatou, Ototo-chan... I can use all the prayer I can get... maintaining purity is one of the hardest things I have ever been called to do... *sigh*


Amen to that sister. I'll be praying for you, too.

Would you guys also mind praying for me? Lately I've been doing a little better after coming out of a really big dive. So far maintaining it is still a little bumpy.
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Postby Prince Asbel » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:33 pm

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Postby animechica » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:16 pm

*sigh*

I feel especially sorry for anime fans because it seems like they douse the shows with fanservice these days. Seriously, I've watched anime before and felt like a lesbian. Am I a lesbian? No. Do I have lesbian preference somewhere deep inside me? I don't think so, but I don't really know and don't want to find out. But when I watch stuff with girls losing clothes and stuff, I feel a little weird, like I like it. It's not even really a concern unless I'm watching those kinds of shows though, so I tend to stay away from them. But I mean, even someone like me, who's always been straight and never really thought of girls as attractive in that sense, can be swayed by subliminal messaging... then I think of straight guys, and that fanservice has got to be just setting them up for destruction. It really is sad.

Anyway, I used to be one of those people who was absolutely DISGUSTED with people who M'd. I thought it was nasty, something that real Christian guys would never do, etc. I couldn't even believe P. I was like, "No way, some guys are such monsters." Well, I never had a problem with M at all, until I turned 16, and then out of curiousity and lust building up, I tried it. Fortunately, I realized I was probably doing something wrong, researched a little, came to the conclusion that I shouldn't be doing it if I wanted to be sexually pure. I decided to stop, but it took awhile longer before I could, and I hadn't even been addicted to it for years. And you know, it was a strikingly clear breaking point... it made me MUCH more likely to lust and sex has unfortunately been much more present in my thoughts. I definitely regret doing it, not just because it was wrong, but because it's caused me so much more trouble with my thought life. I'm grateful though, for one thing: it caused me to be MUCH more understanding with people who M. I realize they are not monsters at all, just people like me who like the feeling and don't have enough self control to stop. (Not that I am a shining example of self control - I praise God I didn't get addicted, dunno how that happened) I have thankfully been pretty much clean on that front since, but I still struggle with wanting to. ><

Anyway, the real reason I started typing this message (sorry for writing a book) is that a dear friend of mine has been struggling with H for around 8 years. He really wants to quit, knows it's wrong, but is addicted. I've tried to help him, and I'm not done trying, so I wanted to ask for your prayers and possible advice. Are there any reasons other than the obvious why M is bad for you? I'm talking like health-wise. He needs all the reasons not to do it that he can get. He and I both pray about it but I'd really appreciate if you guys would pray too. I have a really strong drive so I know how hard it is not to M, but for girls it seems easier to quit...

Anyway, please pray for him. I'd love to see him free from this.
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Postby Themanofchrist » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:15 pm

When you try to stay pure, the internet doesn't help
I am the bone of my sword
Steel is my body and fire is my blood
I have created over a thousand blades
Unknown to death
Nor known to life
Have withstood pain to create many weapons
Yet these hands shall never hold anything
So, as I pray, "Unlimited Blade Works"
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Postby NekoChan_C » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:11 pm

Themanofchrist (post: 1249622) wrote:When you try to stay pure, the internet doesn't help


spoken for the gospel truth it is... >_<
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Postby Themanofchrist » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:59 pm

Trust me I know its the main place I would get it
I am the bone of my sword
Steel is my body and fire is my blood
I have created over a thousand blades
Unknown to death
Nor known to life
Have withstood pain to create many weapons
Yet these hands shall never hold anything
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:20 pm

I've recently met a wonderful young woman at work. She's not an otaku, but she knows what anime is because she has friends who are into it. (Perhaps she could at least be persuaded to watch a Miyazaki film or something for starters. . . .) She's very sweet and always eager to spend time talking with me. Her emotional and especially spiritual maturity leaves me very impressed. That's one of the main things that separates a girl from a woman in my opinion. We've decided to start going to a Wednesday evening Bible study thing together.

I'm naturally feeling rather guarded about saying this, but there's a chance she's not just being nice to me. Relationships aren't normally something that happen to me. Well actually, they just don't. Every time I come close to one, there's always some roadblock or other. Now, this is the closest I've come yet, and although experience has taught me to be apprehensive almost to the point of anticipating failure, there's an unfamiliar tiny hint of success this time that it's getting increasingly hard to bat down.

What that has to do with this thread, is this: If things work out the way I'd obviously like them to, she could be really good for me in many ways. But if they don't, I'm afraid I might find some weak excuse to fall back into old habits.
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Postby NekoChan_C » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:56 pm

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Oy, Spoony! Don't let those thoughts that things WON'T work out get you so convinced that it's over before it even begins! I'm a pro at doing that, and trust me, it really doesnt do much but wear you down over time... Keep your eyes and heart on God and allow things to unfold in His time... Go to Bible study, enjoy the companionship of a girl you find enjoyable to be around and soak in as much of God's Word as you can... No matter what happens with the girl, your spirit will be comforted and greatly benefited from the time spent with Him.
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Postby satsuma » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:23 pm

Hey guys, I know this seems like the same story, but this is really hard for me to do and I feel like I'm in a losing battle right now and I don't want it to get worse. It seems like everyone is quite supportive and encouraging here and I needed to finally let it out. I just feel really ashamed and embarrassed. The thing is, I could go for months, even up to a year, without being tempted to look at such things but for some reason right now I think I am vulnerable at this moment because I am also so stressed out with other things in my life. Please pray for me for strength, I really need prayers right now, and I don't want the shame to stop me from asking for help any longer.
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Postby animechica » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:21 pm

SpoonyBard (post: 1250293) wrote:I've recently met a wonderful young woman at work. She's not an otaku, but she knows what anime is because she has friends who are into it. (Perhaps she could at least be persuaded to watch a Miyazaki film or something for starters. . . .) She's very sweet and always eager to spend time talking with me. Her emotional and especially spiritual maturity leaves me very impressed. That's one of the main things that separates a girl from a woman in my opinion. We've decided to start going to a Wednesday evening Bible study thing together.

I'm naturally feeling rather guarded about saying this, but there's a chance she's not just being nice to me. Relationships aren't normally something that happen to me. Well actually, they just don't. Every time I come close to one, there's always some roadblock or other. Now, this is the closest I've come yet, and although experience has taught me to be apprehensive almost to the point of anticipating failure, there's an unfamiliar tiny hint of success this time that it's getting increasingly hard to bat down.

What that has to do with this thread, is this: If things work out the way I'd obviously like them to, she could be really good for me in many ways. But if they don't, I'm afraid I might find some weak excuse to fall back into old habits.


Awww!
I hope you two at least become friends.
As for the anime thing, who on Earth has to be "persuaded" to watch anime? XD
Haha, I kid. Anyway, here's hoping things go well... but remember not to compromise yourself too much for the relationship's sake. I was dumb once and daydreamed about a guy who pretty much hated anime and didn't care for cats. Yeah, that relationship would definitely go somewhere... but yeah, after I asked God to send me someone, I have a really sweet otaku boyfriend whose favorite animals are cats! ^_^

Just my two cents, because it wouldn't be fun to get really attached to someone who you couldn't share a big part of your world with, you know?
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Postby MangArtist » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:45 am

I was wondering if you guys could pray for me. Lately I have been doing the best I have done, but now I feel a stronger pull to look at/listen to stuff that isn't good. I slipped up a little just now so prayer would be awesome.
I just started beating this crap and I don't want to go back.

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Postby Aleolus » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:53 pm

The closer you get to freedom, the harder the flesh fights back. I know, I've been there several times, and failed every one of them.

I'll be praying, for you, brother.
"Please stand down, I don't want meaningless bloodshed!" chaos-Xenosaga

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"Who are you?"
"If I knew that, I wouldn't be suffering." - Hakuro, Utawarerumono

"Dirty thoughts are bad!" Mahoro, Mahoromatic

Help my dragons to grow, please!
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